I think it would be funny if Cush gets the award again after the revote. I was watching NFL Network and they were running this story and all they showed were clips of Cushing intercepting passes. I thought if they were going to paint Cush as a meathead steroid user, it would have been better to show some hard hits instead?
There's a noteworthy difference there to me. The NFL has to make the assumption that PED-users are the outliers. They're corporate, you know how it is. With the media, we should know better. It's obvious to most who don't have their heads in the sand that the NFL has a rampant issue with PED use. We know better than to assume Cushing is the minority. Also, a bit of extra strength - and I'm having a hard time seeing the difference is that crucial given that he failed in September and passed every other test throughout the season - isn't all that separates an elite LB like Cushing from mediocrity. Instinct, speed, hands, intelligence... these are all enormous factors that have almost nothing to do with PED use. Cushing was so far and away superior to other defensive rookies that even if you subtract somewhat due to possible steroid impact, he's still the clear frontrunner. I understand why the NFL has the Pro Bowl rule. They're the parent, they have to set a hard and fast rule or example. But the media should consider context - factors such as how many times it happened, the overall impact it could have had, whether Cushing is an isolated case or in the majority, etc. It should be the media's job to look through an objective lens, not play the role of moral cheerleader. That's where I think the difference is.
I am not sure what is more sad. The fact that you have ryan wagner as your user name, or that your tried to hide it.
Ryan Wagner was a stud at UH until he got hurt in the minors and then he got on the sauce and his career went into the dumps.
Haha I (dont) think (he thought we would be able to decipher) his attempt to hide his Ryan Wagner (he's a pretty good player) moniker (through the use of complicated and secretive coding that would make a level 1 Sudoku puzzle look like the Da Vinci Code by randomly throwing words together by way of parantheses to keep the actual textual subject intact)
Right. There are also PEDs that help you come back from injury faster than you normally would, what if Cush was caught for that? Since he did play hurt a few times. Then it wouldn't matter. Even if it's just the strength type, LB are not a position relied on their strength. Especially 4-3 ones who need to have better instincts than anything.
Yes. Maybe you think I mean heal a injury faster? I mean the ones that can help a athlete play on a injury that he otherwise would be crazy to play on. Some of these are banned substances in the NFL and MLB...some aren't. Also Mike Golic talked about it one morning on Mike&Mike. He talked about how not all PEDs are not for strength but the kind that can help someone get back out there on the field faster. I'll take his word over yours.
If linebackers didn't rely on strength, you wouldn't draft 240lb behemoths to play there. And lets stop with the fiction that they don't make you fast - being stronger makes you faster - the more force you exert against the ground the farther you are propelled along it. That's why a legion of Olympic Sprinters have been caught using. A player who was surrounded by rumors of PED use all throughout college and leading into the draft didn't even last a month into his rookie season before failing a test. Of course the guy has got talent, everyone in this thread could dope themselves to high heavens and not come close to an NFL roster - but he's also a cheater. There's no way around that.
Cushing worked out in New Jersey on Monday. Joe DeFranco, his personal trainer, gave some quotes. Take it for what it's worth. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/date
I don't see why folks are complaining. If he cheated and received an award based on his play that season, then it's nothing wrong with letting them vote again now that they know he cheated. Ok, others got away with cheating before and got to keep their awards. Does that make it ok? Just because you messed up before does that not mean you can't attempt to do the right thing later? Besides, the article states that voters knew about the other violations when they made their vote. That wasn't the case for Cushing, so I don't see why they can't revote.
Those are called painkillers. The things on the banned list are masking agents, anabolic agents (AAS) and stimulants. In fact here is the entire policy that includes the list. http://www.scribd.com/doc/14066744/NFL-Banned-Substances Find something on that list that does anything like you describe. It does not exist. It is the Andy Pettite BS story people are just repeating. Just think for a second, if it does not heal the injury, then what does it do? What you are saying just makes no sense.
Actually HGH can be used to help a athlete better recover from a injury. No need to even look at the list.
No it cannot. Show me one study that says this. Thought not. HGH is given to children. If it could help people recover from injuries the FDA would approve it for that use. Stop spreading misinformation.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2574291 I guess technically, acromegaly could be considered "anabolic" in that it grows cartilage, but I don't think that that is legitimately within the spirit of what the NFL is worried about. The NFL isn't banning substances because they make your ears big. Also, erythropoietin (listed under "anabolics") is another hormone that is listed that isn't a stimulant, masking agent, or anabolic. Erythropoietin increases red blood cells so it oxygenates your blood better. It is "blood doping". NFL may claim that both HGH and erythropoietin have anabolic effects, but that is not in any way proven scientific fact or even likely.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1358272/ http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/875632829090075A http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1517/13543780902893069 http://archsurg.highwire.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/1/38 http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abs...vival_after_Major_Thermal_Injury__The.21.aspx http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S8756328202007986 I could keep going all day, if you'd like.
The fact is, this is what some athletes are taken. Whether you think it does or not has no influence on why they are taking it, i'm sorry. Lol, well good how you gave me a chance to respond before saying 'Thought not.' kinda eager there? Given to children? And? Steroids are given to normal everyday people as well? Your point? Yes, it is also given to athletes as well. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2574291 Also in the Mitchell Report it claimed that most players used HGH because they thought it would help them get on the field faster. Do you think those players came to that conclusion by their own?
I wish he would come buy my snake oil. It works much better without the painful injections! EPO is a performance enhancer. It is also on the link I listed