They don't shove boxing or track and field down my throat. And when they do show advertisements, they don't bring their sports' weaknesses to the forefront. I'm not sure why Jeff posted what he did. Actually, most posts on this thread did what they usually do in threads involving women...it started to become a show. Very few posts claimed to hate the sport. The rest of them proposed ideas that could improve the WNBA product, or they kocked the ad campaign, which was the point of this thread. Because I never told anyone to follow that advice. You offered the advice, yet you didn't take it. I don't care who posts what. I feel all posts are topic for discussion. But you just blasted every single poster in here and discredited the whole board. Getting a little silly, it's like posting "why did you bump this thread?" Posting that question bumps the thread.
you know its funny, i didn't even read the posts before my referencing "shoving down our throats" when I said the exact same thing. its universal opinion. I guess its a noble cause to market the woman's sport as much as the man, but there is no market, or very limited one.
lower the goals and see what happens. The league needs a drastic change. their attendance is on the way down still. They need some kind of thrill in the product. What better than the dunk? The ability to dunk will have the younger generation of female ball players work on their ability to get to the rim. Which means more crossovers, harder drives, and more opportunities to drive and dish. Lowering the goal also helps shot blockers rack up more blocks. No more floaters. Blockers know where the ball is going when someone drives the lane. More stuffs, crossovers, and dunks. All are dynamic components to an exciting bball game. With names Candace Parker and Taurasi, the WNBA already has media diamonds in its players. You just have to add the showroom lights to make them shine
It's all in your perception. There are tons of ads got shoved down your throat everyday. You chose to accept some and not others. That is because of your bias. That's what some call it hate. When you find out, get back to me. So why did you give me advice? When did I ever suggest that the thread be buried? We are going around in circle and stray away from the original point. Mine was in the reply to Jeff's. Get that and then we talk.
I think this whether "the WNBA is legit" is argued about 6 times every year. The average thread goes about 5-6 pages as well, with the same people arguing it is legit and others saying a guy's high school basketball team can beat any WNBA team. Then there is that third type of poster who argues that guys shouldn't even care if the WNBA is legit or not since it doesn't affect them. Look it up on search if you don't believe me. Its sort of like a bizarre moebius loop that plays out every so often. Me, I'm somewhere in the middle nowadays.
The silly advertising campaign during the playoffs is what sparked this. The commercials are terrible and they are too often.
I'm not sure if lowering the goals would do anything more than further discredit the league in the eyes of its detractors. That gimmick might cement it alongside such other ventures as Slamball and the XFL. A lot of people tend to forget that the NBA had a 50 year head start. I'm not saying that the elite females will ever be able to match the level of the elite males, but the talent level of the WNBA has improved dramatically since it began and if it continues at this rate it's only a matter of time before it moves above the rim on its own.
I see what you're saying, but I think there's legit reasons to do it like the other poster said. The WNBA bball is already smaller than the NBA bball. The 3pt line is shorter. I'm not hating on it...these are facts and it's okay to me because the average WNBA player is smaller and has smaller hands than the average NBA player. They need to make the rims smaller so that the size ratio of WNBA rim to WNBA bball is the same as the NBA rim to NBA bball. If you have ever shot with a women's basketball before, it's seriously messed up in terms of being easier b/c there's more room for error. It's all about fairness, and entertainment. Lowering the rims is fine and it wouldn't be gimmicky imo. If women were the same size as men, then yeah it'd be stupid, but there aren't too many 6'6" high-flying 40" vertical women out there. Hardcore fans of basketball will always love the NBA, but honestly, it's the dunks and athleticism and excitement that drives the league and makes money. Highlight reels aren't composed of well run offensive sets that lead to a spot-up jumper. I also wouldn't mind it going the other extreme, like making the ball NBA size and the 3pt line NBA distance, for then the WNBA would be closer related to the NBA. But it's already obvious that the WNBA doesn't see it that way and wants to adjust to the size differences. But then you have to make the rim smaller to be fair, but that might be a little too costly.
You're missing the point, man. I said I didn't know why Jeff posted what he did because the majority of the thread was not about hating the sport. That's that. As far as boxing ads, what am I bias towards? That WNBA ad is a joke. It's like a bank ad saying, "I charge many hidden fees. It's easier to deposit than to withdraw. My tellers can't tell a debit from a credit. We're about to go bankrupt." Wamu wouldn't say that. I never said you wanted the thread buried. What you posted was like making a post that said "why did you bump this." Someone bumps a thread, then someone gets upset for some reason and posts "why did you bump this," not realizing that they bumped the thread his/herself. You misinterpreted everything I posted, but that's ok with me. If you want me to admit I did something wrong, then fine. I went against the "if you don't like something, then don't do something" advice you served up. I did it to point out that you just did the same exact thing. Calling this board "once great" implies that this board is no longer great. That's not the case. This board is still great and one I enjoy everyday. I don't usually "argue" on forums, but there's a lot of misinterpretation between our posts. I'll just leave it at agreeing to disagree. Either way, we're both Rockets fans, so we DO have something in common. This thread is about the WNBA ad, and I'll stay on topic. They're going the wrong way, especially with Candace Parker as their new media darling.
I don't think lowering the goal is that much of a gimmick, at least not to the extent of Slamball and the XFL. The problems with the WNBA would be addressed with that simple solution. Problems: -Boring to the commercial market -Low scores (people prefer a 9-7 baseball game as opposed to a 0-1 game) -Lack of athleticism Solutions by lowering the goal: -Dunks, crossovers, stuff blocks which are components of exciting bball. -Easy baskets will become more frequent. -Future players will want to dunk, working on ability will increase athleticism Another reason they should lower the goal: They made everything else smaller like the ball, the 3pt line, etc. because the the WNBA player is generally smaller than the NBA player. They made everything proportionate except for the height of the goal. Why not add more razzle dazzle by lowering the goal?
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OK, I think this ad campaign just got worse. In addition to the inherent terribleness of these commercials, the newest one features a girl that has a slight speech impediment.
