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[CultureMap] Jeremy Lin shackeling hurts the Rockets: Almost treated with Tim Tebow disdain

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. daoshi

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    I don't have problem with Lin's minutes, low 30's, giving that his returning from injury, this is practically his first season as a starter.

    I do sense the coaches don't trust him enough. I understand that all rookies have to earn their due, and coaches usually give a short rope to the rookies. But the guy is your starting PG, and he has proved in a limited number of games that he is capable of playing at high level, I feel the coaches should trust him more, even when he makes the mistakes on the court.
     
  2. nono

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    He always wants the ball at the exact same spot and never seems to budge from there the whole game. It makes the offense very predictable.
     
  3. verysimplejason

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    It's not funny dude. I've been reading Clutch since 2000 and I respect his posts.
     
  4. JustAGuy

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    I always have this feeling that if there was some stat I really wanted to know about, I could make up some specious argument relying on the eyeball version of that stat and wait for someone (Hi torocan!) to correct it with real data. Admittedly it would be evil, lazy, and really annoying. Plus he would make me look bad. But still...
     
  5. Arthurprescott2

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    Come on, jocar. You know that's not how the offensive system works for this team. There's no cutting when the ball-handler isn't drawing extra defenders.

    The ball-handler has to create for himself in order to draw in extra defenders and then pass the ball out to an open teammate. If Harden can't accomplish that in the 15 seconds he's holding on to the ball (w/ or w/o a screen to force a switch), then he should take the shot himself (or just drive) instead of passing it to a well-defended spot-up shooter with 1 second left (cause he's the one who got himself into that mess). Otherwise, that's just hanging teammates out to dry.

    Not that this is a huge deal - only about 2-3 possession per game. Still... just some real bad judgment on his part. The whole offensive system/philosophy hinges on Harden/Lin being able to penetrate to draw in defenders - if they're not doing that, then the entire thing falls apart.
     
  6. vstexas09

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    why are people dissing Clutch?

    The LOHs on this board is overwhelming, and should be banned. Seriously. His production as of late is helping the Rockets, and this is a Rockets forum, so if you have nothing good to say about the positives he contributes to the team, then GTFO.

    Clutch posted something that was thread worthy, so acknowledge it.
     
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  8. verysimplejason

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    You are correct but sometimes if nothing is working and you've got somebody who got a hot hand, why not? Though of course as a PG, it's Lin's responsibility to be the "small" coach inside the court. It's up to him to go and ask for the ball if he wants it. Time and time again he has proven he can be a better facilitator. Why not let him handle the ball, run some plays (PNR) so that others especially Harden can have some breathing room to score properly at least on the fourth quarter? It may prove to be a stabilizing force whenever our players got out of hand.
     
  9. Arthurprescott2

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    This weird double-sided argument of "Lin is the PG, he dictates whether he shoots or not" completely disregards the type of system Rox run where at least Lin/Harden/Parsons are given free reign to create the offense in the specific types of ways that the coaches want. There are only so many possessions to distribute among them.

    Moreover, how many times have the "vets" on this board screeched/hollered that the focus of the offense/main ball-handler is/should be Harden - which clearly contradicts the "Lin is PG, he decides whether he shoots or not" argument. If Harden is the main focus, then Lin actually doesn't have the power to decide how many times he shoots.

    The weird thing is this article fails to see all of this - which means the author is basically advocating for a complete overhaul of the offense - clearly ridiculous.
     
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  10. kmart9419

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    Yao could had taken 100% of the shots and everybody would be happy. Too bad we just can't get him the ball.
     
  11. holly1985

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    Seriously, you guys all got worked up by an article? I live in NYC and NY's media is much much worse.
     
  12. PopItRockets

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    LOL Clutch trolling good one man! As for Lin he took enough shots he just wanted to involve others more but they were ice cold. Nothing to see/discuss here anymore onto the Jazz game!
     
  13. ComeBack

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    To be fair missed fouls don't add into that count but that only gives Harden 2 more shots attempts.

    Harden 19
    Lin 17
     
  14. maderzhao

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    Even you are the administrator and you highlight the line, the article does speak out one truth: the coaching staff does not trust Lin as the primary play maker, which is hardly deniable if you call yourself unbiased.

    Should Lin be the primary play maker, many advanced statistics imply such as long as you buy into this kind of Moray thing. The key problem of this team, of course when they play lost, is that when Harden is trapped with playing ISO, the whole team's offense is very predictable. Everybody just stays outside watching and waiting for a 3 point dish from Harden if any. There is no cut, no curl, no moving. If ref give Harden contact calls, this stagnant offense can be bailed out with Harden's FT. But like yesterday's game that was called like a playoff game, the game becomes tough to watch.

    To say the truth, when Lin is the primary ball handler, he's more looking for open guys than Harden. You can argue he's not as a good finisher as Harden is, which is certainly true. However, when Lin plays as a true PG, the whole team is more willing to move because everyone is expecting to get different catches rather than just spotting up 3 out of Harden's ISO.

    When a game is as stagnant as the Warrior one, I would put Lin on top more often and trust him as the best facilitator of the team.


     
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  15. QazQay

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    Jeremy Lin just isnt a very good scoring option. The article says that in the last game he should have taken more shots because in that game he was doing well, but the truth of the matter is that there is no evidence to support the 'hot-hand' theory. In fact, statistics has shown that no one in basketball actually gets hot, getting on a roll is just chance.
     
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    i'm getting tired of this murphy dude. He is always coming to the defense of lin not being allowed to be himself. Who is this dude? and what does he know about basketball. pssh. People who have never played the game should not give their opinions!
    Away with this LOF who wears weird suits! (not a serious post)

    16 shots per game is one more shot than what a pg should average.
     
  17. SMROX

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    You are just ignorant.
     
  18. Fighton

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    there's no cutting because with harden iso'ed at top, you need to clear the space for him to drive. under normal circumstances, he's very effective both shooting the three or drive the lane. however, his knee/ankle is still bothering him, rendered him to just a shooter.
     
  19. Karolik

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    Parsons was hot for 6 games, and he took like just as few shots per game. Why didn't we feature him too? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Hail to the V

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    And you lack the ability to recognize sarcasm without the /s.
     

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