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[CultureMap] Jeremy Lin shackeling hurts the Rockets: Almost treated with Tim Tebow disdain

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. hltiki

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    this is one way a person spirals down into prostitution =/
     
  2. raskol

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    Buddy, you're living up to your name and not helping your cause. I advise you not to call other people stupid... It's rude, lol. And how'd you know my wife's name is Yolanda, lol! Man, with guessing like that, I'm starting to get jealous.
     
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    I think Friedman makes things worse by responding to tweets. He needs to grow thicker skin in my opinion. He gets all butthurt at people all the time now. He's kind of become a joke to some people on twitter. I think a few people that have been tweeting him to get a reaction just because they think it's funny how indignant he gets over every single Lin question. Honestly, I think its kind of funny, too.
     
  4. tinman

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    you got to tell people the truth. it might not be pleasant.

    for example. this article. it's garbage.

    another example, if you are eating a veggie burger, but the chef tells you it's beef, it's a lie. it's not the truth.

    this is clutchfans. i know the rules here. i know who rules this kingdom.

    cash money millionaire, i hate to spoil it to you , but you got no power here.
     
  5. J-Wolf

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    Would rep if I can. You've got a very valid point.

    As a coach, commenting that infamous "29 pts with 9 TO, but we want to win", is highly in-professional. If you are a coach/person with a right mind, you don't talk like that about your trusted or even liked person, not to mentioned your star player. And to say that in public? Is he just trolling to prove a point?

    Then again, why only Lin gets treatment like this?
     
  6. raskol

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    It wasn't to boast, it was just an impulsive retort to some jealousy rant tinman was on. I get that Clutch is a true Rockets fan, I respect that he created something great out of nothing, i just happen to disagree with a few of his opinions. But, I'll avoid criticizing or arguing with Clutch from now on just out of respect and on gp. But Tinman, you're out there, bro! Love the loyalty, respect!
     
  7. Clutch

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    It wouldn't be a Jeremy Lin thread without a raskol attack that misrepresents and attacks the messenger.

    I didn't say "stupid" or those who "vaguely agree." I said those who think this is "spot on" with "well researched" or "excellent analysis" responses shows a low IQ about the game. This is a horribly researched piece... almost everything in it is wrong. You could be a Rhodes Scholar... that doesn't mean you understand the game of basketball or how the Rockets play it, and those responses (in massive quantities) show that kind of ignorance is widespread.

    Here's an example:

    Chandler Parsons just went through a stretch of six straight games where he scored 20 or more points and forget this "anything close to 50 percent" noise -- Chandler shot better than 50% in every game. He took less than 16 shots in 5 of those 6 games. The other one? He took a whopping 17 shots.

    Chandler has not taken more than 18 shots in a single game all year, and he has played 40 or more minutes in 22 games.

    All three sentences wrong -- fatal blow. This entire argument right here, which is the basis of his piece, has been destroyed. It's an art form to be that wrong.

    But, by all means, raskol... show us your hoops knowledge: Spot on! Well researched! Excellent analysis!
     
  8. raskol

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    But Jason's a good dude, though. He's kind and respectful. People gotta respect the good ones and leave him be. They should have more players in, btw, like they did Parsons the other day.
     
  9. tellitlikeitis

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    Right on.
     
  10. tinman

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    I don't know how when I talked about keeping it real, you decide to talk about your wealth.

    keeping it real is not about wealth.

    When I asked Jeremy about the Rockets and the pressure of being a starter, he knew I was keeping it real with my question.

    no one is stopping you from criticizing Clutch, you mention he doesn't like Lin fans. It should be more like he doesn't like Lin fans ignoring facts and not caring about the team.

    There are Rocket fans who join all the time, but there are Rocket fans who joined Clutchfans for the pure reasons.

    Like in Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade, we chose wisely.
     
  11. tinman

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  12. raskol

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    .. I see your points and its taken. The article was off, but not at its core, imo. The lack of trust in someone i believe to be potentially great, real or perceived, is painful to witness as a big fan of basketball in general. For me personally, its like playing Delfino at the 4 at every game, or not giving more touches in the post for D-Mo, or playing Robinson an extended amount of time or trusting TD to be the pg. Its anathema to my basketball sensibilities. Its hard to watch, thats why i get upset sometimes.
    Ultimately, I think I just want you to be a Lin fan (truth be told, lol) cuz that would make my day. It's childish, I know, but ha, that's as truthful as it gets. I want more people to see Lin as a baller who plays the game right, turnovers and all. Just a fan speaking.

    Just to clear up, if Lin were truckin it out there, I'd sit him as well. That's a promise. Rockets basketball comes first, as it should.
     
  13. ERC

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    Can't say I agree with you, sorry! Jason has been very helpful in answering questions from fans. I don't think he gets "butthurt" but rather just really frustrated. Shame on the fans who troll or take out their frustration on someone by hiding behind the veil of anonymity of the Internet.

    My original post about Jason being snappish at fan about sympathy is that some fans seriously take things too far, pushing even a seemingly decent guy to his limit.
     
  14. jason330i

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    hmm... so what exactly are the pure reasons?

    can't be a pure rockets fan if you were initially a fan of a player.

    can't be a pure rockets fan if you live outside of houston.

    can't be a pure rockets fan if you became a fan after hakeem.

    can't be a pure rockets fan if you haven't followed the nba for a minimum of 15yrs.
     
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  15. tinman

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    He's never going to rank Lin above the Rockets ever.
    Clutch talks to Lin and Lin respects that Clutch is about the team. he's not the media guy who goes to Lin and acts like he's Lin is Prince.

    When Lin has a bad game, he's not going to overreact it's not like when doves cry.

    he's just going to keep it real and when he parties, he parties like it's

    1999.
     
  16. AggNRox

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    i don't believe clutch would completely agree with you on this statement. this site, just like the toyota center, attracts all kinds of ppl. what do you mean " the lin fans aren't respecting the house"? the only thing i saw on this board is arguing. some may look unreasonable and laughable but they are still argument. i don't see many of them disrespect the site, like lin fans in the toyota center. they follow the rule of the center. they don't break any law. rox would be extremely happen if they can show up every game.

    i don't think the reason for building this site is just for a small group of "BBall experts". had it been the case, i highly suspect rox would be so high on this site.
     
  17. tinman

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    you'll know if you're pure

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  18. loox

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    People see what they want to see. For those who have a lot of faith in Lin, what they saw in this article is the worry resulting from the coach's lack of trust in Lin, as manifested in the coach's decisions and general game plan; for those who don't have enough faith, what they saw in this article is exaggerated facts and misplaced examples.

    But calling those who share the general worry with the author of this article "ignorant" or "silly" just because of some exaggerated statements or misplaced examples shows the kind of condescending mindset and lack of charity on the other side.

    I think the article made a few basic points that are good: coaches still too often forget to ride the hot hands in the case of Lin; they still rely too much on Harden creating (or ISO) in crunch time; there still lacks enough game plan to utilize Lin's strength. The article might use some inappropriate examples to support such claims, but it does not mean the basic worries are not valid.

    Charity is such a rare thing in this world, especially on this forum!
     
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    My apologies to everyone. Don't mind me. I'm just really grumpy after a loss. You should see when I lose pickup games against cocky kids or when my kids don't put in effort in their games. I darn near get a heart attack every time there's a missed box out or someone doesn't call out a screen.
     
  20. jason330i

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    sigh. how i wish i could be purebred. you guys are so lucky.

    ;)
     

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