OK, hg whatever your name is, since you've decided to get personal, first of all, this is a sports message board and it is certainly expected that there is going to be some degree of trash-talking and heat-of-the-moment responses. If you're using my comments (only some of them, of course) as an example of Internet etiquette, well, #1, you chose the wrong forum, and #2, you're referring to a few comments I made regarding Mark Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks- and if you feel the need to defend them and be upset because we're "ragging" on them, then you go right ahead, as is your right. Oh, and BTW, as I mentioned before, when you start to look up users' profiles and bring up personal information (such as one's birth date), you've crossed the line and you should be ashamed of yourself for doing so. Now, on to this discussion. I've been watching the NBA since 1977. 10,000+ games, probably. And I'm telling you that officiating- and its mistakes- are part of the game and always will be. My personal opinion is that if a team has a gripe about the officiating regarding a particular game or incident, they should go through the proper channels to rectify the situation. The Spurs do this, so do the Pistons and almost every other team. Occasionally, you'll have a coach gripe to the media about a particular game or incident- it happens, not a big deal. It's been happening since the 1980s with Pat Riley and KC Jones and it will continue to happen into the 2010s. However, there are degrees of behavior, and Mark Cuban has made an art form out of blaming officials when the Mavericks lose. I've read his blog quite often even though I personally don't like his behavior because he does have some interesting ideas regarding the game. But his gripes against the officials involve nearly every single game in which the Mavericks lose. He's built up a culture and acceptance in the Dallas Mavericks organization that it's perfectly fine to blame officials after every loss rather than just admitting that, in the large, large majority of cases (I would say probably all), it was his team's lack of discipline on defense or ill-advised shots that did them in. Mark Cuban (yes, I'll use his real name because I don't want to offend the highly sensitive contingent on the board) may have been correct this time. And? So, we replay the last minute of the game? Great, now this is what the game has come to? Do you realize how many times this could have happened in games from the past? I can recall at least 40 or more games that could have been decided in a different direction were a foul to be called or a transgression pointed out. Mark Cuban does this all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if hg were Mark Cuban himself- I mean, Mark Cuban would be the type to look up someone's profile and use personal information to make a point against someone. So, HG, if you're Mark Cuban, here's the comments to you: You seem to care about your team and its players, as well as the sport. You really do the game a disservice by making nearly every loss from your team about the officiating. Also, suing your former coach for passing on trade secrets to his new team is mind-blowingly embarrassing. You create an atmosphere of excuses within your team, and it does not serve them well in pressure situations. What you should do is follow the model of a team like the Spurs, have the team take responsibility for its losses, let your coaches coach (and don't use the press to say how all of your players were ready to mutiny against Avery Johnson, AJ did not deserve to be thrown under the bus like that), let your GMs make personnel decisions (Kidd for Devin Harris? I know you had a hand in that one), understand that it is OK to bring up when the referees make an egregious mistake, but pick and choose your battles, and, most importantly, stop being such a media-driven attention w****. You know, a few "no comments" would do wonders to improve your reputation among NBA fans and other teams.
Cuban needs to quit complaining... no body wants to hear his whiny ass anymore. Look where it got him in the Finals a few years ago.. seemed like a few of referees bet on Miami that series.
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LOL god forbid someone dare looks up "personal" information that is voluntarily made public on a public message board. Boy I sure hope no one would EVER dare look up MY public profile on a message board. But I've said too much; I would hate to blow my cover.
No, it has nothing to do with the discussion- only for individuals that must realize their defense of Mark Cuban is weak. The fact that you would even take the time to do that just shows that I must have really gotten to you. I've posted 1,000s of message and never, ever once felt the need to look up someone's profile. But, of course, for someone that calls a poster "ludicrous" and "idiotic" then criticizes same poster for being rude, it's just par for the course. Yes, I have a definite problem with Mark Cuban. I don't like owners who blame officiating in numerous situations to mask their team's shortcomings. I don't like owners who say things to the press like, "I had to fire Avery... all the players were threatening to play elsewhere if he stayed on as coach..." I don't like owners who try to sue their former coaches over supposed non-compete agreements. I don't like owners who go to opposing players during halftime, like J.R. Smith, and try to have a confrontation with said players. Most importantly, I don't like owners who put themselves above their team and make themselves more of a focus than their players. I dislike Mark Cuban and I will ridicule him on this board mercilessly. So, you go say what you want. Tell Mark we said to keep up the good work.
Very true. Cuban really has no room to complain here. He should be happy that the officials were actually trying to get it right by going to instant replay so many times.
Well, he made it official. Now, originally, he said his complaint was that it wasn't a reviewable flagrant, now it's that Dampier didn't throw an elbow. http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4759922 DALLAS -- The Dallas Mavericks' appeal of their overtime loss Friday to the Houston Rockets argues that center Erick Dampier was inappropriately assessed a second technical foul. The referees -- Ken Mauer, Brian Forte and John Goble -- called the technical on Dampier during an eight-minute review of a flagrant foul assessed to Houston's Aaron Brooks. The play occurred with 1:01 remaining in overtime and the Rockets leading by six points. "What the rule says is, when you review it, the reason it's reviewable is because you want to see if anybody else is involved and make sure that the appropriate penalties are assessed," said Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, who filed the appeal paperwork with the league office Sunday. "So you look at the review, and just like a Flagrant 2 can be downgraded to a personal foul or can be downgraded to no foul, when you look at that video, you should assess the appropriate penalty, which in this case is none. "Because there's no question that not only was that not an elbow above the neck, not only was that not an elbow with an intention to harm, there wasn't even an elbow. There wasn't even an elbow. There wasn't even an elbow thrown. By any reasonable standard, that change should have been made, and I'm sure the refs didn't know you could make that change, so that's a misapplication of the rules." Cuban originally said that he planned to include at least two other calls in the appeal, but the Mavericks opted to focus on one call. The NBA has five days to rule on the appeal. Cuban is requesting that the game be resumed in Dallas with 1:01 remaining and Dampier at the free throw line to shoot two free throws. In that case, the Mavs would have possession of the ball after the free throws.
imagine the door that it would open if the league decided to replay the last minute of the game. every team with questionable calls would ask to replay games left and right. this would continue the downtrend of the image if this happens.
Well, it already happened once last year- if they do it this time, though, then the precedent will really be set. The NBA needs to put a stop to this nonsense once and for all. Besides, Dampier would've stayed in the game if the idiot hadn't already received a technical foul. I think this is clearly different from the Shaq situation last year and just can't become a trend.
Right, the scorekeeper missed the number of fouls on shaq as opposed to a questionable technical foul that was given by a ref. We should go ahead and replay the last qtr and a half of the denver game because landry certainly didn't deserve a tech
LMAO. cuban is such a douche. replay the final 1:01 of the game? yes, let's jump into our time machines and go back to replay that. in fact let's go back and replay a few games from the playoffs against dallas. there were a crapload of no-calls in that game that didnt need but a few seconds to see that they should be overturned. let's let the rockets advance to the next round after rightfully beating dallas and play its next opponents... gtfo. i can't believe that i actually once thought mark cuban was a good thing for the nba.
Sigh, Cuban is such a whiner. Seeing as how Murphy's Law has been so great to the rockets lately--here is my pessimistic prediction. They'll give the little baby what he wants, make the rockets replay the 1 minute of overtime during the Dec 31 game, Jason Terry shoots lights out since its the Toyota Center, and Dirk plants the dagger in his return from the elbow injury, and rockets get their hard earned victory stolen from them. Thats just the way the dice roll for the rockets. Nothing is every easy.
