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CSN Houston files for Chapter 11

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Comcast has with and without two year agreements. The two year agreements generally will generally cost at least $180 less than no contract over the first year.
     
  2. dragician

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    well this is not helping us...
     
  3. lexled

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    Well i finally gave in today. I already use comcast for internet, but have DirecTV for TV. I called comcast just now and asked how much it would be to add 1 HD tv box and add on whatever package included CSN Houston. They said the "digital starter" package had that channel. The added package and HD box added $40 a month to my comcast bill. They play around 14 games a month, so an average of $2.85 a game to watch. I can live with that, I just hated having to give in.

    But whatever, its done now, Rockets on HD in my living room. Cant wait.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    You do realize CSN may cease to exist very soon, right?
     
  5. lexled

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    Yeah I know the bankruptcy filing and a judge set to rule on Oct 28. But either way, i will be good to go. If and when DirecTV adds whatever channel the rockets play on, I will cancel the tv portion of comcast and take their box back. I didnt have to do a year or 2 year commitment since I was already a customer.
     
  6. No Chance

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    I called Comcast because they were going up on my bill again. 2 digital boxes and subscription + internet is now $184.12.
    They said they would give me a $99.00 rate if I agree to a 2 year contract.
    With a $15.00 a month penalty for every month left on contract if I canceled it.

    Well I asked some questons and that dose not include the box & modem fees .
    with 2 boxes, modem, + taxes it ends up being $140.00 a month.

    I went to Best Buy for Direct Tv and to get 3 genie boxes and the Premium services with NFL league pass and the movies package it was total with tax 73.03 . For the 1st year , 2nd year was$106.81. I am going to use AT&T for internet $ 20.00 for the slow or $45 for the fast. The savings for the first year will more then make up for the cost of the 2nd year over ComCrap.
    The Comcast rep told me the equipment rentals will go up in the second year of the Comcast contract because the 2 year agreement dose not cover equipment cost.
    If I just cut off the tv Comcast will charge me $65.00 + tax just for the internet.

    How is AT&T fast internet service doing? I would like to hear.

    I am having Direct Tv installed today. Haven't decided for sure about the internet part. All I do is browse Clutch fans and do e-mail. Only files i down load or windows updates and driver updates.
    I know I won't be able to watch all the Rocket games but I am sick & tired of ComCrap so I will have to find alternate means.
     
  7. MadMax

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    What's 2013 - 1998? :)
     
  8. Horry33

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    Geez I already have Comcast internet for $37 total. After last 17 years of not having any cable or satellite, I was ready to get cable from Comcast yesterday. But they told me just the cable package, equipment and taxes could cost me $101 extra a month. Is this really how expensive cable is?

    Come on clutchfans there must be a Comcast rep that can hook a brother up out there right?
     
  9. No Chance

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    If you can stay away from Comcrap do it. They will keep going up on the rates and equipment rental. Seems like this last year they ease the rates up three times. You can call and negotiate down but they will keep increasing. I started back in 1994 with Time Warner, but when Comcrap took over it has been an UN-ending battle you have to call every 3-4 months to deal with them. Finally had enough and dumped them for Direct TV.
    Looking for a way to replace the internet part but I guess I will have to wait on Google Fiber. Hope it is soon.
    anybody have any internet alternatives??
     
  10. Faos

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    http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/...different-needs-in-comcast-bankruptsy-ruling/

    Astros, Rockets have different needs in Comcast bankruptcy ruling

    Thursday, October 24, 2013

    While reserving most of their rhetorical ire for Comcast, the Astros’ legal team Thursday outlined differences with the Rockets, their partner in Comcast SportsNet Houston, in a statement filed in advance of next week’s hearing on whether the network should stay in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

    The Astros expanded on previous filings by accusing Comcast Corp., parent company of the NBC Sports Group that includes CSN Houston, of being the ultimate force behind the motion by Comcast subsidiaries to force CSN Houston into bankruptcy.

    “Comcast … orchestrated the bankruptcy to circumvent the Astros’ bargained-for contractual rights for its own purposes,” Astros attorneys said. “Such behavior ‘falls squarely within the parameters which classically define a bad faith filing.’”

    U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Marvin Isgur on Monday will hear the Astros’ motion to dismiss the involuntary Chapter 11 case filed Sept. 27 by four Comcast affiliates and Comcast’s motion to name an interim trustee for the network. The Rockets this week said they favor keeping Houston Regional Sports Network, the Astros-Rockets-Comcast partnership that owns CSN Houston, under Chapter 11 but oppose naming an interim trustee.

    The Astros also note that Comcast, the Rockets and Astros have different economic interests at stake.

    “The Rockets’ media-rights fees are among the very highest in the NBA, enabling the Rockets to outbid other teams on high-priced free agents in an effort to compete for world championships, regardless of whether the network is profitable,” attorneys wrote.

    “The Astros are differently situated. To invest in rebuilding a championship team, the Astros must supplement their media rights payments with equity distributions from a profitable network. Because of the different economic positions of the partners, some deals that might make business sense for Comcast and the Rockets would spell disaster for the Astros.”

    The Astros said Comcast “wants to handcuff the Astros’ media rights to the network so that its own interest can be served, even if it is economically devastating for the Astros, and the Rockets are much less concerned with losing their equity in the network.”

    Astros owner Jim Crane said the team has opposed informal proposals for carriage agreements because the network would run at a loss and the Astros eventually would lose their 46 percent share to Comcast.

    The filing also addresses arguments by the Rockets’ attorneys that the Astros do not have proper legal standing to challenge the involuntary petition and disagrees with the Rockets’ stance on whether the Astros’ media rights agreement can be assigned to a third party, which the Astros say is not allowed.

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    How is this true:
    Regardless of how much the Rockets get they have a salary cap. They can't "outbid other teams" the way baseball teams can.
     
  11. Spacemoth

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    What is this trash. Houston should call Bimathug as an expert witness to explain how patently false this is.
     
  12. NotChandlerParsons

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    Wonder if they ever stopped to think that the Rockets are more profitable than the Astros because Leslie is a good owner and tries to win games. Probably not.
     
  13. meh

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    I haven't lived in Houston for years, so I don't really know the situation with local cable. But given how much people here dump on Comcast, how do they have such a huge market share in Houston? Do they reach more people? Or are they better for certain type of viewers?
     
  14. Faos

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    I've had it for years and enjoy it. I think the haters are more vocal. No problems for me.
     
  15. OldYelllowDog

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    I placed my order to switch from Uverse to Comcast, only because I wanted to see the Rockets. When I read about the bankruptcy hearing, I called to cancel. I want to find out if the network will even exist. Yes, the order was based on no contract, but I love Uverse, and don't want the hassle of switching if this goes down the drain. Next few weeks will be the deciding factor. Honestly, I expect more delays. That is how the lawyers prefer to do things, more $$$ for them.
     
  16. OldYelllowDog

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    Also must add that Comcast would NOT provide me with Xfinity One unless I purchased the triple play (TV, internet & PHone). Sorry, I cant do that. Uverse has any room DVR without that requirement.
     
  17. tested911

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    WTF... We can outbid other teams on high-priced free agents? Since when in all the league has that happened?
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    The Astros filing, as described here, would be mistaken about the Rockets' supposed cash-richness being the primary reason why it could bid on a high priced FA-- the ability to create cap room is. Though it doesn't hurt that the team was able to spend cash on a beavy of "dead contracts" (Scola, for one) and paying cash to buy picks and facilitate trades.

    They would probably be right though to say that their economic needs are not the same as the Rockets'-- the primary difference being the absence of an NBA style salary cap in baseball. However, I do wonder whether the current deal would really put the Astros into the MLB poorhouse. Also, I wonder how much they can really market their media rights for if CSN-H breaks up and they get to sell these rights to another network.
     
  19. danielcp0303

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    Honestly, I just don't see how Crane and the Astros expect to make the amount of money they want. Whether CSN blows up or not, they aren't getting whatever Comcast promised them. Being with the Rockets actually helps them make a better deal.
     
  20. Faos

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    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...SportsNet-4929307.php?t=3ccf48a5d98cb15e6e#/0

     

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