Yeah, two wild animals that are aggresive in the wild hypothetically and actually attacking people that alledgedly know what they are doing. I dont see any correlation at all.
First of all, how many people do you know that let their 10 month old infant and dogs play together? Secondly, we are not talking about animals playing with people. If you want to try that route, ask yourself this. How many adults play with their dogs? Plenty. Why, because dogs are not terribly dangerous How many adults play with crocodiles? Not many. Why? Because crocs ARE terribly dangerous.
seriously man...abort, abort, abort. you're comparing playing with a dog, a domesticated animal...and playing with a crocodile, a wild predator...a machine built to kill. that's beyond apples and oranges.
"Every living thing goes crazy. Every species," he said. "And there's nothing -- no fingers to point. There's nothing." Roy of Siegfried and Roy critical after mauling I am absolutely flabbergasted, petrified, stupefied, mortified, speechless that there is even any debate. I would have never in my wildest dreams have imagined to click on this thread and find anyone defend Irwin.
Not just 'playing with a crocodile" Dangling your baby...which looks very much like the croc's food...in one arm, while tossing meat at the animal at meal time. Far too many Fosters all around.
No, I;m not. I'm comparing a normal person playing with a dog to Irwin playing with a crocodile. What it comes down to is how dangerous was Irwin using his child in this event (Not necessarily how dangerous you think it is, but given that nobody actually got hurt, it is impossible to say without guessing, really). How dangerous was it versus how much benefit was there in it? Kids can die everyday in car wrecks, but people still take them places because they are getting something in return. Be stupified if you want, but I think Irwin knows what he's doing, I think it was perfectly safe to the degree Irwin thinks its safe for himelf to be in there and I think there was plenty to gain for Irwin, his family and his child from a developement perspective, be it a one month year old or one decade year old. I don't think there was anything to gain from Irwin showing it to the rest of the world, and he's admitted he screwed up there.
Anybody ever seen any outtakes of Steve's shows? Like the episode where his hiking boot was cut through by the teeth of a Kimodo dragon? Or the time when he was bitten by a croc when trying to move it from one place to another. If I recall, he needed about 12-13 stitches for that. ... and a quote from the man himself : Just because you're an "expert" doesn't mean you can't make a mistake. Steve's made plenty... you just don't see them on TV (or not much anyway). And that dog vs. crocodile argument is bunk. Give me a break. A dog is trained and domesticated - when you get a croc for a family pet, we can talk.
Well, I never thought I'd see MadMax post that. Anyway, we need to sharpen this domesticated dog analogy. You need a domesticated dog who eats typical food chunks that are the size of a baby. Or you need a baby that is the size of an average piece of dog food. Sorry, JayZ, but this is the hardest I've ever had to work to avoid using that damned roll-eyes symbol. If you'd let Irwin babysit your kid around crocs instead of some average BBS chump babysit your kid around a family dog, I can't think of anything nice to say about it.
He's the Crocodile Hunter damn it, let him be who he is! His whole family are Croc Hunters. I'm sure C. Hunter Jr. will be doing the same thing one day. I'm cool with it. We need more wild men out there freaking people out. GO CROCODILE HUNTER GO!
It wasn't the injuries, but the last part of the quote I was referring to (if that's what you're referring to). He admits it was his mistakes that cause the bites. If that's the case, a kimodo dragon and/or croc bite will be a wee bit more serious than a dog bite. Hell, I may rather get bit by a croc than a kimodo dragon.
This was the point I tried to make earlier in the thread. You just can not compare the two. A normal person playing with a dog to Irwin playing with a crocodile ? So Steve can play fetch with a crocodile, take it on a walk, pet the croc, take it to the park to meet other crocodiles and their owners? This is just some of the many things ANY average person can do with a dog and be safe.
If this is true, I don't really see too much of a problem. I will admit that I am kind of bias since I like the Irwins ever since I went through this Crocodile Hunter phase, watching two episodes a day for like a month or two. I think he was aware of the possible danger and made sure not to get too close or drop his baby. I can also go with the "surroundings thing." I guess there could be similar danger with a person with their baby crossing a busy street with their baby. A car could come out of no where, or they could slip and fall, dropping their baby. This is how they live. Also, watching the show, it seems as though he "knows" how a crocodile will act. He knows which ones are aggressive, what each tend to due, etc. I don't think this was some crocodile they just found, but one that Steve knew quite well. He seems to have a personal relationship with several of the animals. But that's just my opinion. Maybe it could change if/when I have kids.
I don't condone the act at all but it does look more drammatic than it is. The truth is it seems especially risky and dangerous because we perceive this wild animal in control of the situation, but in reality the risks are probably a lot less than a whole of other activities that we think we are in control (gives us a false sense of security). How does the risk of whathe did compare with a mother or father driving too fast, owning a pit bull or Rotty, taking the kid to a park where dogs are around, not buckling their kid under any conditions, driving after a couple beers, taking your kids on a mountain hike/climb, or taking your kid for a private plane ride if you are a pilot? Terribly stupid publicitywise, most definetely, stupid in general, probably, but if it is "criminal" than probably half or more of the rest of parents are criminal too because they are doing far more dangerous things all the time.
