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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. basso

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    I supported these ideas before CRT existed.
     
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    i wish I shared your confidence that people understand that slavery and Jim Crow effects carry into present times. Hence my question. I think a crap ton of people think those events were decades ago, and the black community should have pulled themselves out of the ditch (like other ethnic groups) but black culture and values are too messed up, so the culture and laziness is to blame … so screw them if they won’t even bother to help themselves.

    I believe that this sadly encapsulates the thinking of literally millions of americans, including the vast vast majority of MAGA.
     
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    I would say that literally is the default view of 95% of people who vote Republican.

    And 75% of them get offended when they get called racist.

    I would say the default view of the vast majority of republican voters, the part of the party main stream media says aren't racist people, see slavery and Jim Crow as bad things and will vocally say they don't support things like segregation but also believe those past incidents have no bearing on modern economic disparities and any modern disparities are due to culture
     
  4. basso

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    I'd like to see some statistics on economic disparity in "the black community", relative to other ethnic groups. I used quotation marks because there is not a homogenous black community, anymore than there is a homogeneous white, asian, or hispanic community.

    and, as we all know, there are black Americans today who are exceedingly well off, in the sports, entertainment, and other spheres, and not just in front of the camera. are poor blacks worse off, or more unlikely to to exit their economic station, than poor whites (or asian, hispanics)? maybe, but I'm not so sure. there are perhaps different paths, and the path for a black American to leading a hedge fund may be as unlikely as the path for a white American to the NBA. but again, I'd like to see statistics.

    but to the extent we want to solve the problem for all disadvantaged Americans, regardless of race, creed, color, or sexual orientation, we should target assistance, whether direct economic aid, development, or set-asides (affirmative action) using income, rather than external characteristics, as the criteria.

    you'd reach the people you'd want to reach, w/o prejudice.
     
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    Are you like 80 years old then?
     
  7. basso

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    not far off.
     
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    Good health then to you.

    So...you're saying you basically support CRT
     
  9. basso

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    so...nope.
     
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    You just said you have supported the main tenet of CRT for most of your life. Seems like you are contradicting yourself here.

    Maybe time to look past labels and spin, eh?
     
  11. basso

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    I think we know what CRT is.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    I think we are speaking past each other because it's obvious there is a disagreement of what CRT is.
     
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    Which is?

    This is a serious question. Can you cite academic papers about CRT, curriculum material that says that white people should be shamed?
     
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    if, as @Sweet Lou 4 2 @FranchiseBlade have both claimed, CRT is nothing more than directing assistance to the economically disadvantaged, plus Dr. King's meritocracy ideal, then what is there that needs to be taught in schools?

    what is the CRT curriculum? is there a recommended CRT syllabus?
     
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    You have a lot to say about it so you tell us.
     
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    You just claimed you knew what CRT was.
    Therefore shouldn’t you have that information?
     
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    That's not my personal view, to be clear.
     
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    what are you teaching, please?
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Just cite aspects of actual CRT course material and literature to express your grievances with the theory. Isn't that what you were taught in grade school? Read literature and critically analyze it and whether you agree or disagree with the premises and why with citations? I'm not asking you to do all mla format or something. Just causally reference the material and aspects you have gripes with.

    Isn't that like a fundamental aspect of intellectual curiosity?
     
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    Please show me where I claimed that's all CRT is.

    I posted a link to the American Bar Association article. You might want to read that. It's a good starting place.
     

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