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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. basso

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    my point was to note that this is being discussed in conservative circles a far more rationale than the petty carping that goes on here. The article i posted shows an instance where painting with a broader brush could prove problematic for the administration.

    this is in fact why we have a system of checks and balances- the supreme court can rule on these questions, or if it rise to a high crime, then the congress can act. i don't see any of that happening, so until it does, this is all just mindless b****ing.
     
  2. insane man

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    its hard to have any checks if the executive claims privilege for everything.
     
  3. Deckard

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    With all due respect, basso, you seem to delight in starting threads using obscure sources, while up to your ears in petty carping. You really should consider getting some new stuff for your tackle box. Maybe a new rig and some different lures. Perhaps then you could catch that bass you've been pursuing like Melville's Captain Ahab, with about as much luck.



    Trim Bush.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    Or if the congress is composed of a bunch of giant p*****s institutionalized into a mindset less concerned with maintaining the country's ideological foundation than maintaining the electability of the status quo.
     
  5. basso

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    i didn't start this thread.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Back on topic...

    This was dug up from 2004. Classy people...
     
  7. rimrocker

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    I'm glad we brought honor and integrity back to the White House...

    This seems to be a similar but different set of meetings than what ABC reported.

    The thing that is so bizarrely anti-American is the administration's reliance on what the Justice Dept said was legal. The Justice Dept. is in the Executive Branch, not the Judicial Branch... this approach effectively allows the Presidential appointee at Justice to find anything that the President wants to do is legal, whether there is prior case law or not and whether there are Constitutional prohibitions. It is such the antithesis to the rule of law, I can't imagine a greater example of the corruption of our system.

     
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  9. rimrocker

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    Greenwald writes well. Here's a taste...
     
  10. Refman

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    The problem is that the President cannot go to the Supreme Court with these issues because the Supreme Court cannot issue an advisory opinion. There must be a controversy. If the Supreme Court could issue an advisory opinion, they would be call upon to do so every time a state wishes to enact a law that is Constitutionally shaky.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    Jack Bauer has led me down a misguided path.
     
  12. insane man

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    lets not forget the fact that the OLC is a bunch of political hacks. Yoo's entire justification for his memos is that he is a political hack.

    OLC should be a bureaucracy. or at least there should be some detachment from politics. otherwise they just find a way to justify any illegal acts the executive wants to take. and the executive uses that as a cover to ensure whatever he does is 'reasonable' enough to avoid incrimination. it's nice little scam they have going.
     
  13. rimrocker

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    Cowards. If what they did was so great for America, why not tell us all about it?

     
  14. rimrocker

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    Obama:

    Damn right. Rule of law.
     
  15. Drexlerfan22

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    Ah, I see the ends justify the means.

    That's never gone wrong before.
     
  16. rimrocker

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    Except in this case you just have means with no ends.
     

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