[CRI] McGrady may be on ALL-NBA first team *UPDATE* : TMac on 3rd Team

I wasn't surprised by Tmac making only the third team, but the score bugs me. How the hell can Tmac lose so large a margin to Drik, Lebron and KG??

KH

 

So Amare is a forward for the all-star balloting and is now conveniently a center in the eyes of the nba? When was the last time a guy got 90 more points than a similar, yet inferior player, but was held back by position restrictions?

 

Wow! Losers like Lebron and KG are ahead of T-Mac?

That just tells you ALL you need to know about these fu**ed up awards.

 

Bullcrap!!!! WTF has Lebron or KG or Kobe done this season. This is pure crap. Until Lebron makes to the playoff, he is nobody and nobody is afraid of facing him maybe except for the hawks.

 

Arenas, Marion, Tmac. One of these 3 is not like the other.

 

Two of those three are not like the other

 

In fact, all three are unlike the other two.

 

Marion was a 19/11 player on the best team in the NBA
Arenas was a 25/5/5 player on a 5th seeded playoff team
Mcgrady was a 25/6/6 player on a 5th seeded playoff team

Mcgrady is obviously the best player of the 3, but it's not like his season was THAT much better than theirs.

 

Well, if he was a guard he would of been on the second team over Ray Allen.

Next season Yao and T-Mac will start the season as they finished it this past season, that will get T-Mac a 1st team spot. Yao can probably get a 1st team spot too, if he is consistent enough and Shaq continues his decline or gets his contract extension.

 

Also give me a break, Ben Wallace is a better player than Yao. Put him on the hornets and put Yao on the hornets, lets see who's better.

 

Your argument is a bit on the off side. T-Mac had a three month adjustment period with a new team. Also, stats don't tell the whole story, because Phoenix and Washington are up and down teams and stats don't reflect how the game is played or how the players are defended. T-Mac doesn't belong in that list.

How many times are Arenas or Marion doubled?
0
How many shots did Marion take when there's nobody within 10 feet of him?
5,554,235 shots

 

we got robbed! even Gilbert Arenas got one vote for first team! I just can not believe it!

maybe thisis payback for ALL-STAR vote

 

All-NBA team announced...T-Mac in third team and Yao right on edge

http://www.nba.com/news/allnba_050518.html

Duncan named to All-NBA First-Team for eighth straight season
Shaquille O¡¯Neal Headlines
All-NBA First Team

NEW YORK, May 18 ¨C San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan earned his eighth consecutive selection to the All-NBA First Team when the NBA announced the 2004-05 All-NBA teams today. Duncan is only the fifth player to make the All-NBA First Team in each of his first eight seasons, joining Hall of Famers Larry Bird, George Mikan, Bob Pettit and Oscar Robertson.

Duncan

During Duncan¡¯s tenure on the All-NBA First Team the Spurs have enjoyed the success of two NBA titles (1999, 2003), held the NBA¡¯s best record three times (1998-99, 2000-01 and 2002-03) and earned five division titles (1998-99, 2000-01, 2001-02, 2002-03, 2004-05). Duncan averaged 20.3 points, 11.1 rebounds and 2.7 assists this season in leading the Spurs to their eighth consecutive playoff appearance.

Joining Duncan on the All-NBA First Team are Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks at forward, Shaquille O¡¯Neal of the Miami Heat at center, and Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns and Allen Iverson of the Philadelphia 76ers at the guard positions.


Nash


O'Neal

O¡¯Neal led all players in All-NBA first place votes (122) and total points (616) after averaging 22.9 points, 10.4 rebounds and 2.34 blocks per game. His performance this year enabled the Heat to record a 17-win improvement over last season. This season also marked O¡¯Neal¡¯s record 13th consecutive season that he has averaged at least 20 points and 10 rebounds. This is O¡¯Neal¡¯s seventh selection to the All-NBA First Team.

Nash, the 2004-05 NBA Most Valuable Player, averaged 15.5 points (.502 FG%) and an NBA-best 11.5 assists in 34.3 minutes per game. Phoenix enjoyed a 60-15 record when he was in the lineup this season as he helped guide the team to its first division title since 1994-95 and its fourth overall. Nash is appearing on the All-NBA First Team for the first time in his career.


Nowitzki


Iverson

Iverson ranked in the top five in scoring (first, 30.7 ppg), steals (second, 2.40 spg), assists (fifth, 7.9 apg) and minutes per game (second, 42.3). Iverson joined Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan and George Gervin as the only players in NBA history to capture four or more scoring titles. This is Iverson¡¯s third selection to the All-NBA First Team.

Nowitzki averaged career-highs this season in scoring (26.2 ppg), assists (3.1 apg) and blocks (1.53 bpg). He was the only player in the NBA to be ranked in the top 10 in both scoring (fourth) and rebounding (tied for ninth with 9.7 rebounds per game). Nowitzki scored 10 or more points in the fourth quarter on 18 occasions this season and 20 or more points in a half 13 times. He makes his first appearance on the All-NBA First Team after twice making the All-NBA Second Team (2002, 2003) and Third Team (2001, 2004).

The All-NBA Second Team consists of Cleveland Cavaliers forward LeBron James, Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett, Phoenix Suns center Amar¨¦ Stoudemire, Miami Heat guard Dwyane Wade and Seattle SuperSonics guard Ray Allen.

The All-NBA Third Team includes Phoenix Suns forward Shawn Marion, Houston Rockets forward Tracy McGrady, Detroit Pistons center Ben Wallace, Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant and Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas.

The 124-member voting panel of writers and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada consisted of national media members and members from each of the league¡¯s 30 teams who regularly cover the NBA. The media voted for All-NBA First, Second and Third Teams by position with points awarded on a 5-3-1 basis.

Attached are the results of the voting for the 2004-05 All-NBA Teams, with First Team votes in parentheses:

2004-05 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM: Position Player, Team (First Team Votes) Points
Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio (95) 553
Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (75) 510
Center Shaquille O¡¯Neal, Miami (122) 616
Guard Allen Iverson, Philadelphia (69) 498
Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (118) 606


2004-05 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM Position Player, Team (First Team Votes) Points
Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (45) 421
Forward Kevin Garnett, Minnesota (34) 408
Center Amar¨¦ Stoudemire, Phoenix (9) 367
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (35) 417
Guard Ray Allen, Seattle (1) 177


2004-05 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM Position Player, Team (First Team Votes) Points
Forward Tracy McGrady, Houston (15) 264
Forward Shawn Marion, Phoenix 134
Center Ben Wallace, Detroit 105
Guard Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers (1) 108
Guard Gilbert Arenas, Washington (1) 104


Other players receiving votes, with point totals (first team votes in parentheses): Yao Ming, Houston, 82; Vince Carter, New Jersey, 63; Jason Kidd, New Jersey, 16; Paul Pierce, Boston, 15; Marcus Camby, Denver, 14; Rashard Lewis, Seattle, 13; Manu Ginobili, San Antonio, 12; Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland, 11; Jermaine O¡¯Neal, Indiana, 8; Tony Parker, San Antonio, 7; Mike Bibby, Sacramento, 6; Elton Brand, Los Angeles Clippers, 6; Grant Hill, Orlando, 6; Carmelo Anthony, Denver, 5; Antawn Jamison, Washington, 5; Richard Hamilton, Detroit, 3; Tayshaun Prince, Detroit, 3; Chauncey Billups, Detroit, 2; Chris Bosh, Toronto, 2; Stephon Marbury, New York, 2; Reggie Miller, Indiana, 2; Michael Redd, Milwaukee, 2; Larry Hughes, Washington, 1; Corey Maggette, Los Angeles Clippers, 1; Kenyon Martin, Denver, 1; Brad Miller, Sacramento, 1; Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento, 1.

 

we got robbed! even Gilbert Arenas got one vote for first team! I just can not believe it! look at his play in the playoff, his B-IQ=0

maybe thisis payback for ALL-STAR vote

 

Both Yao and Tmac need to shake off this loser reputation in the league. We got robbed by the refs and now ...

 

Snubbed. I don't see why TMac didn't even make the 2nd team, he definitely should have been placed ahead of KG, his team was horrific this season and that should count for something.

 

I can live with them not choosing McGrady over Nowitzki and Duncan, but Lebron and KG? Neither of those guys had the season McGrady had and neither of those guys took their teams to the playoffs. Come on, man!

 

Guy has the best season of his career, is OBVIOUSLY the best player in the playoffs and gets the third team behind guys on teams that DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! Wow. Media/coaches/players really, really hate Houston.

 

Wow, they put Amare as a center? That's really f**ked up.

 

We are percevied as the loser by the refs and Media/coaches/players. Until we change that, we wont get any benifit in the calls and voting. I am sure if LBJ doesnt make the playoff next year, he wont even sniff the first team ballot for years to come until he wins something.