sounds like you're getting a little butt-hurt over my opinion about your opinion about people's relationship with god. so, do you feel sorry for yourself?
Uh, how am I butt-hurt? I couldn't care less about your feelings on the matter. And the fact that you're just running around pointing fingers and being snarky makes me value your opinion even less, really.
that explains your numerous posts to me in the last half-hour! how hard is it to lay off calling people idiotic for their faith? iow, having a little decency?
Not sure where you got that from, groogleuxyxyx seems to be the one taking issue with me, not vice versa.
I call it like I see it. I'll change "idiotic" to "illogical" to protect your feelings, if you like? Sorry for responding to you, didn't know that qualifies me as "butt-hurt"... guess I'll avoid it from now on.
criticizing my contributions to the thread sounded like you were a little butt-hurt. regardless, you can think or type whatever you like. and i'm free to respond in any manner i see fit. if you don't like my responses to you calling people idiotic for their spiritual beliefs, then maybe it's you who should protect yourself by not calling people idiotic. or stop ****ing responding to me. either way.
Sigh. Blake, you're a nice guy, so I'll ignore that. I was disappointed in your contributions to the thread because they were pretty hollow (or at the very least vague) and not even really pertaining to the subject at hand. Normally I like what you have to say and you crack me up, but those posts were very un-groogly.
Sorry, I'm not well versed with the timeline of the bible, but aren't there a lot of creationists that think the earth is much older than 6,000 years old? I remember reading there were individual bible characters that could live for a few hundred years, and I always thought genesis covered a much longer time frame than 6,000 years. I don't see the contradiction in believing earth was created a long time ago by a supernatural being and the existence of dinosaurs.
i was seeing the same things in this thread that have been said over and over here by people that have caused long-time members to have no desire to comeback here. if you feel people are idiotic in their positions of faith, it's your right. but again, have a little common decency to remember that when you say that, you are taking the chance of belittling good people who have taken their beliefs and done great things with them (and even inspired others like myself to give back to communities). sorry if you're confused as to why that would piss me off.
Can we just change his name back to Rocketman95 because this groogoglelaly thing is not working for me.
I'm pretty sure the Simpsons has taught me that everyone will win a grammy at some point in their life.
I think you're missing a couple of things here. 1) I never called anybody "an idiot"... rather, I called the concept of believing in something with no evidence "idiotic". Smart, intelligent, trustworthy, epically badass people are capable of doing idiotic things. Doesn't make them "an idiot". I know you won't probably notice, or care, about the distinction between the two, but it is actually very important and makes a huge difference in how offended you should personally feel about my opinion, which I think you're way overreacting to. We've gone over this a million times in the D&D and otherwise about the contributions of religious men to science, knowledge, and the depth of human understanding about the universe, and I've always been the first to acknowledge these things... so people who are assuming I think all religious people are "idiots" really aught to realize that I understand those two things are not mutually exclusive. 2) If your beliefs are that insecure, whereas Donald Most can post on a BBS and disrupt/disturb them to the point of this much anger or resentment (i.e. leaving the BBS), then I really don't know what to tell you. My opinion about something immaterial is that of my own, and it has no bearing on how you should feel about yourself or your own opinion. If you chose to take personal offense with me finding it idiotic/illogical to believe in something which has no evidence, then I think your faith may not be on very solid ground (Landlord Landry is a perfect example of this, he seems to let my comments roll off his back, and while I think his guns are totally bunk, at least he consistently sticks to them) and you make be taking things far too personally. For example, if someone called me a "indecent" or even "soulless" for my belief (or an even better example, someone calling me an idiot for not out-right believing in god simply because of the risk-reward factor), I'm not going to get all huffy, report that post, and leave the BBS... There are a lot harder things to deal with in life than just stubborn people on a BBS, so if I drive people past the point of no-return, it makes me really worried that they won't fare much better elsewhere.
Wait what? Why would any long time member not come here, isn't there an ignore function? Why would someone quit, over someone else's opinion, isn't that fairly weak? I would hope that people are tougher and thicker skinned than that. Our values on religion are our own, I respect other people's values, they can believe what they want, but if it is brought up as a topic, then people can't expect everyone with a different opinion to sit and hold hands and sing c*m-ba-ya..... This place is called "Debate, and discussion".........not "Cower and quit"..... Use the ignore function, that is what it is there for, and don't be a wuss. Stand up for your beliefs.....if you got em.... Jesus wasn't a quitter..... :grin: DD
I'm not sure who grogglax is referring to. Can't be FFB, he never leaves on his own accord :grin: I haven't seen MadMax in a while, though.
My guess is it's MadMax. I think after his thread about the Christian Scientist in D&D blew up in his face he had all he could stand. That's just a guess but that's the last time I've seen him post. Too bad. He seemed like a really nice guy.
I like both Max and Rhester, they do a great job of discussing their beliefs. While it may not change some of our minds it might inspire others who read to seek out faith. I would hope that neither of them actually stopped coming because of a difference of opinion. When I said "Jesus was not a quitter" I meant it not in mockery but in admiration, that guy spread his message of peace into an era in which he was ridiculed, beaten and ultimately killed. Whether or not you believe he was the son of god or not, it would be impossible to not respect his convictions and message. The Message from Jesus is 100% consistent.....the problem for me is in the Old Testament......same for Islam.....well, not entirely, Mohammed's message is all over the place and inconsistent...so for me it falls apart a lot more quickly than Jesus' message does. I think faith is extremely personal.....and would be saddened if some of our more faithful members left because they didn't think their message or convictions are being heard, because they are.....even if not by some of us non-believers. There are still people reading who might be inspired, IMO. DD
