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Cowher interested in Texans?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rockets934life, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. Spacemoth

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    As much as I hate to say it since Kubiak has looked many times like he was on the verge of turning the ship around...that man now has a culture of choking as an integral part of his aura. You can point to what, ten games since he's taken over where we could have/should have won in the last half-minute but did not?

    The team seems like it has the tools to win, and obviously the head coach isn't the one coughing it up at the 1yd line/into the end zone or shanking two straight game-tying kicks with time expiring, but after it has happened this long there is an established pattern for how the Texans do things. This city has almost given up on the team; no one might care if we go back to losing a while just to win later on, so I say why not. It's an awful fate to be shackled to mediocrity for the foreseeable future, so something has to give.
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    a little too specific, isn't it? but, since you're obviously incapable of or unwilling to answer my question, i'll give yours a go: aaron kampman in green bay has been rendered a total non-factor this year in capers' (coughcough3-4coughcough) scheme - 37 sacks the 3 years prior; just 3.5 this year.

    the problem with mario (like kampman, as a matter of fact) is that he's a pure, edge-rushing defensive end. period. he's not a tweener-type, like ware or freeney, who could theoretically transition to a different position.

    but my concern isn't just mario, though it's certainly a big one. it's having to revamp an entire defense and offensive line, both from a personnel and scheme perspective, that worries me. perhaps he would have the talent needed to transition seamlessly to his scheme. but the ZBS and 3-4 require *very* specific players. can a chris myers or kasey studdard be space-filling, clock-controlling interior linemen-types? what about duane brown? or mike briesel? guys specifically brought in to be ZB'ers?
     
  3. moestavern19

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    Cowher's chin intimidation is good for an extra 2-3 wins per season.
     
  4. emjohn

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    Mario Williams: 30.5 the 3 years prior to this one, just 4.0 this year.

    -->Damage done. Kubiak's already letting him go to waste.

    Green Bay Defense last year: #22 in the league in pts allowed, #20 in yards allowed.
    This year in capers' (coughcough3-4coughcough) scheme: #11 and #2 (per game), respectively.


    Are these guys able to succeed in the current schemes? Run blocking is arguably the worst in the pros. The defensive line, despite having a Pro Bowl end, is somehow more inept than the O-Line.

    We have to revamp our personnel no matter if Kubiak stays or doesn't. The O- and D-lines are not tolerable as is. Kubiak has had several years to work on implementing his run game - are we seeing progress after 4 years? His staff has had offseasons with the defensive line - are they turning things around after one more spring?

    Kubiak's done what he can - and we've got a phenomenal passing offense to be proud of. But you can't be scared of change. He's not taking us to a Super Bowl. I highly doubt he takes us to week 2 of the playoffs.

    It's time to take a step forward.
     
  5. LongTimeFan

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    I gotta think Houston fans would be on suicide watch in a few years if we passed on Cowher because we were "scared our personnel might not fit" his team. That just seems like such a stupid reason to not hire one of the best coaches in the league.

    I'll take a great coach who may have to mold his team to fit his concept any day over a mediocre coach whose team fits his concept and is still mediocre.
     
  6. Major

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    Here's some, on the offensive side since that's a little easier to see re-tooling: Ken Whisenhunt, who rebuilt his offense around a super-QB and WR's. At the college level, Greg Davis is a perfect example of someone who totally changed styles from Applewhite to Simms to Vince.

    But in your example with Green Bay, it didn't go backwards. Who cares if Kampman is not getting sacks? He's getting more tackles, and the defense is allowing fewer points. So they changed systems, took a guy who's not suited for the 3-4 according to you, and built a better defense with it. If that's the example, that's an argument in favor of Cowher, not against it.

    That happens all the time with new coaches, though. And it never seems to be this crazy problem that you're making it out to be. Every coach has different philosophies and comes into a team built for the previous philosophy. What makes the Texans so unique?

    I would point out that the running games sucks, so maybe those guys aren't actually suited that well fo the ZBS; or if they are, they aren't very good at it anyway. The Texans are dead last in yards per carry - does it matter if they change up the running game structure?
     
  7. UTweezer

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    New England made a change from the 3-4 to the 4-3 mid-season a few years back with success
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    Chintimidation?

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  9. moestavern19

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    Precisely.

    The chintimidation factor should never be underestimated.
     
  10. Obito

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    The same Chintimidation Garnett uses?

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  11. Obito

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    Cowher needs to take a coaching job so he doesn't have to do these stupid Pre-Game shows anymore. My god. They've got him wearing a lab coat pretending to be Dr. Footballstein constructing the perfect QB....
     
  13. studogg

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    i'm sick of coaching scared...

    kubiak sucks

    hire cowher or go balls out for dungy

    and ric, drop the nonsense about cowher changing to a 3-4, our current package is a nose tackle away. And as it stands, we need to draft an interior d-lineman to solidy the d




    dunta robinson, pay me. you owe me for watching your pathetic ass.
     
  14. sammy

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    I'm getting more convinced week by week that Kubiak isn't going to lead us to the promise land.

    No way you pass on Cowher or Dungy. If they want to coach the Texans, we have to pounce.
     
  15. TheRealist137

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    If the Texans get Cowher next year, I guarantee we make the Playoffs. If the Kubiak is still the coach, 8-8, at best.
     
  16. RocketMania1991

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    I second this
     
  17. Pete Chilcutt

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    The Texans have too good of a team to be playing this bad. An Experienced coach would have this team 7-3
     
  18. BucMan55

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    I have been a big proponent of keeping the staff in tact for continuity, but Kubiak appears to be taking a team with 10-6/11-5 talent and making them into an 8-8 squad. The lack of discipline today was terrible for a big home game.
     
  19. v3.0

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    asking price reported 10 mill per year, damn Cowher better start a dynasty here if he's going to get that...
     
  20. Pete Chilcutt

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    He is worth it. We desperately need him, hell i would settle for Gruden though as well..
     

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