this idea is just stupid, everyone that is quick to fire a coach is irrational, Kubes is a good enough coach, he is new to this head coaching gig, give it time and it will all click on the same page. I’m tired of this getting a new coach all the time to fix the problem, it makes it worse for at least a couple of years. Kubes has not lost the team, and is good enough to win just give it time. Fisher, never won a SB nobody gives up on him. Cohwer won One freaking super bowl in like 15 years, everyone sucks him, why because he has a chin? Give it time when Kubes has lost the team and we are completely stuck then he gets canned. You and I both know that he is good enough to win. Best example of my point is San Diego, they were one of the top AFC teams now they are just above average. Denver is headed down that same path, be patient and don’t be stupid. You don’t swat a fly with a Nuke.
don't really understand this argument. he did it for 15 years. that's a long track record. and it's not as if the cowboys have been great just because they are the cowboys. just because you have a dynastic franchise doesn't mean they will do anything with any random coach.
Not really an argument. I'm posing a question, because I don't know much about him, how Pitt was before him, etc. And why would mario not work in a 3-4? No one has answered this yet.
Who says Mario would have to move though? He can still stay a DE and just have Barwin come in as the LB. "Mussop" at TexansTalk had a good writeup on this actually:
I always thought the job of the DE in the 3-4 was to clear space for the LB's to get to the QB. It's basically like having 3 DT's instead of 2. I don't like the idea of using Mario Williams to clear space for Connor Barwin.
Yeah, in that article it mentions that the OLB has to be physical enough to dominate a offensive tackle. Connor Barwin Check? Barwin is fast and athletic, but I wouldn't call him physical yet. At least at this stage. Any time he gets locked up with the O-line, he is immediately neutralized. I don't think our personnel is anywhere near appropriate for the 3-4 as that article insinuates.
All of us old Oiler fans remember when Ray Childress was neutralized by the 3-4 (or Buddy Ryan's 46, which was just a hybrid of the 3-4). I'd hate to see that happen to Mario. And he's not an OLB. It was painful watching him try to catch VY/CJ in the open field the other night. Yes, he's fast. But he's fast for a DE, not a LB.
Good God, the Texans running a 3-4 would be disastrous right now. They'd have to get Vince Wilfolk or Haloti Ngata in Free Agency to have a prayer. You need a mauler at Nose Guard. A beast. A 350 pound, 2 block taking, offensive lineman eating beast. Not Amobi Okoye.
Poor Amobi. It is looking like it wasn't the best idea to draft a teenager to play the most size-dependent position in the NFL
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Bill Cowher would be the ONLY coach I'd be willing to fire Kubiak for. It's tough to say whether or not we would have won some of these games if Cowher was our coach, but I GUARANTEE this team would be prepared and precise. No more stupid off-sides penalties.....no more looking like you just woke up from a nap for the first 2 drives of the game.....no more lethargy. He's a fire and brimstone guy, which is exactly what this franchise needs. But, with that being said, I LIKE Kubiak. I think what he's done with this team is downright incredible. When he and Rick Smith took over, this team probably had 3 legitimate players on the entire roster that another team might covet.....but now, you look up and down the 53-man roster, and we have premium talent in the majority of the positions available. I think if Cowher isn't knocking down our door, we give Kubes and Smith one more draft and season to see what they can do.
Because one year they sucked, and the next year (or by the end of year 2) they didn't. From 2002-2006, Arizona never finished better than 6-10. They hired Whisenhunt and finished 8-8, 9-7 (and make Superbowl), and are now 7-3. From 1990-1998, the LA/St. Louis Rams never finished better than 7-9, which they did once. They hire Vermeil, who doesn't quite "snap" his fingers, as the team actually gets worse for 2 years, but in year 3 they go 13-3 and win the Superbowl. The Miami Dolphins had a combined record of 20-44 in the 4 years before hiring Sparano, including 1-15 in 2007. The next year they are 11-5 and make the playoffs. This year is a bad year again for them...which means they're 5-5...oh yeah, that's the Texans record, too. Off a high in 2004 of 11-5, the Falcons, with Vick as their QB got worse and worse, culminating in 2007 with Vick in jail and the Falcons at 4-12. The next year, with Smith as coach, they're 11-5. Tampa Bay hadn't had a winning season since 1981 when Dungy took over in 96. He went 6-10 his first year, but 10-6 the following year and had no losing seasons as their head coach other than his first. In the 3 years before Brian Billick was hired as the Ravens coach, Marchibroda was 16-31-1 as head coach, including 6-10 in the final year. Billick was 8-8 in year one and 12-4 in year two, including a Superbowl win. ---------- Again, I never said it works for every team. The Lions are on their 5th coaching regime of suckage. The Browns are on their 4th (though it should be noted, even they had one 10-6 season in there just two years ago - but isn't that kind of the point, even they fired their coach after 4 years despite that winning season...and they didn't potentially have a Cowher to fall back on). Moreover, I recognize there are other factors to consider. Dick Vermeil's Rams did suck in his first two years, then Warner comes out of the blue and they're a new team. The Falcons were struggling with the Vick situation, a strange coaching carousel situation, and drafted a solid rookie QB AND signed the top FA running back the same year thy "flipped the switch". And, obviously, scheduling is a factor. Crappy teams theoretically benefit from easier schedules, hence the ability to quickly turn-around. But whatever the case, there are so many examples where, mostly by the end of year 2, the new coaching regime had turned around a enormously struggling franchise. In some cases, in year 3. But in all cases, by year 4, it either happened or team was on to the next coach. I'm not a proponent of letting Kubiak go to promote Frank Bush. Nobody is suggesting that. They're just noting that if Bill Cowher wants to take over your team, that seems talented, yet can't win pressure games or get over the hump, than that probably is a smart move.
I like Kubiak, and I think eventually he may correct some of his mistakes. That being said 21-21 in two plus seasons doesn't cut it. I would take Cowher in a second. I think this team is very close to really busting out and believe Cowher could be the guy to take the Texans to the next level. I'm tired of not being able to run the ball, score at a better clip in the redzone and get to the QB. Cowher I believe would help improve all of these things. I would be on the phone yesterday
the list of coaches, HOF caliber on down, that bring their scheme and philosophies to their new team is infinitely longer than the list of coaches who drop their schemes - the ones they perfected and made them a viable coaching candidate - and pick up where another guy left off (and failed). then name one- name one coach that did not bring their expertise with a particular scheme or philosophy to their new job. i'll list a scant few off the top of my head that did; this is just the tip of the iceberg: when jack pardee was hired by the oilers, he installed the run'n'shoot; when mike holmgren went to seattle, he brought his version of the west coast offense; wade phillips & dom capers have brought the 3-4 to every single stop they've made as head coaches and defensive coordinators; tony dungy brought the cover-2 to indianapolis, alex gibbs brings the ZBS to every stop; dick labeau brings the 3-4 to every stop.......... look at all the jimmy johnson, bill belicheck, bill walsh coaching tress - none of them stray far from the philosophies and schemes of their predecessors. coaches coach what they know, especially, and obviously, if they've had success with it. cowher would almost certainly chuck the ZBS scheme and install a 3-4 defense.
without a doubt And honestly. . . I would not want a coach to attempt to coach a philosophy/style they did not truly beleive in Rocket River
Can you name one of those good coaches who took a star player and ruined him because he was insistent on running a different scheme and couldn't figure out a way to use that star? That is the core of your concern, right? That Bill Cowher would make the defense worse because he wouldn't be able to figure out a way to effectively use his $60MM defensive end?
