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Cowher interested in Texans?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rockets934life, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. Kate81

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    I hope this doesn't happen.

    But based on the past history of the Texans, I'd say this doesn't happen; because they never do what the fans want.
     
  2. thegary

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    i would take dungy in a heartbeat. cowher had the advantage of coaching the freaking steelers. they are THE gold standard franchise. dungy as has been mentioned turned perennial loser tampa into a juggernaut.
     
  3. sammy

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    We have a lot of young talent so I could see why it would excite him. Plus, we have a great owner.

    Cowher would give the Texans instant credibility. We might see players take pay cuts to come play here, which would be the exact opposite of what's going on currently for the Texans.
     
  4. the futants

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    It has been mentioned in this thread already, but I don't think it's been answered:

    Didn't Cowher run a 3-4 defense? If so, wouldn't it make sense that he would want to switch to a defense with which he's more comfortable? That said, it would take quite a bit of rebuilding to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4 personnel-wise. The Texans would have to lose quite a bit of their up-and-coming bada$$ defenders.

    Just a thought...
     
  5. MadMax

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    I don't think Cowher...who has his pick of the litter of NFL jobs...would choose to go to a place where he knew he'd have to rebuild to the extent that he'd be a loser for the first few seasons.
     
  6. rhino17

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    No, his system would require too many changes to the current roster, it would set us back a few years. I would rather have Gruden
     
  7. Landlord Landry

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    cowher sure does get a ton of hype for having won a single chip in 15 years.
     
  8. Major

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    Outside of Belichick and Dungy, can you name a non-retired coach with a better track record or who has accomplished more?

    It's not just championships - it's being competitive year in and year out. He made the playoffs in 10 out of 15 years (won the division 9 times). There's not a lot of guys who can say that.
     
  9. DieHard Rocket

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    Besides Belichick, and Shanahan with 2 rings from over 10 years ago, I don't see many coaches on the market (or in the league, for that matter) with more than one chip in 15 years. Do you?
     
  10. rockets934life

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

    In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles. It has become an article of faith among NFL pundits that the Steelers do not have a bad team two years in a row – they have never lost 10 or more games in consecutive years since the 1970 NFL merger. At the conclusion of the 2005 season, the Pittsburgh Steelers had the best record of any team in the National Football League since Cowher was hired as head coach.
     
  11. TheRaven

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    Here are the facts:
    a) It would take a new coach a minimum of three years to retool this team, especially with a 3-4 defense advocate new coach
    b) Until Peyton Manning is dead in his grave, the Colts will probably be the division favorites, so the best the Texans can do is play for a Wild Card spot, of which there are only two; one of twelve teams vying for two spots
    c) It's not like the Texans have been blown off the field in any game except the Jets (a game I was at, and at which the team was so tight, you couldn't have driven a broom straw up their a$$ with a sledge hammer). As a matter of fact, three of those games were lost in the last minute
    d) Even the Oilers, who went to the playoffs several times, had to learn to win within the division, and get past the AFC championship, something they never could do
    Bottom line: This team has grown incrementally, even though 8-8 is the best so far. They have upgraded their personel through the draft and made some good free agent acquisitions. They are getting better.
    How will they finish this season? probably 9-7, 10-6 at best. Not great but not as bad as half the league will finish.
    Will they make the playoffs? probably not. But again, neither will twenty other teams, some of whom have been banging away at it for much longer than the Texans.
    Lots of expectations went up in smoke last night, some of which may have been exaggerated.
    BUT THEY ARE RIGHT THERE... almost there. Maybe a running back or lineman away, but they're hell and gone better than two years ago.
    Born here, raised here, lived all my life here and the first thing this town wants to do after a kick in the nuts like last night is throw out the baby with the bath water.
    Not trying to minimize the failures thus far, but now's not the time for another garage sale and house cleaning.
     
  12. Major

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    This isn't remotely a fact, no matter how many times you guys repeat it.
     
  13. Landlord Landry

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    how about the guy that took over cowhers position....
     
  14. Major

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    Certainly, he looks to be on his way. But he's really only been a coach for 2-3 years now, so I don't think he has the track record to really be in that discussion. That said, if Tomlin was available to be the Texans coach, I think you'd have to consider him too. But one thing we don't know about him is whether he can retool a team at all if they aren't good. He's been pretty lucky to take over an already impressive team.
     
  15. rhino17

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    a 3-4 defense would absolutely require an entire overhaul of the defense, how long do you think that would take?
     
  16. Major

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    Several things:

    1. There's nothing to suggest that Cowher can only coach a 3-4, or that he would feel the need to immediately switch it, team talent be damned.

    2. Its very possible to shift the philosophy over time if he really does ultimately want to go to a 3-4. There's no need to rebuild to do it. The Patriots, for example, have flipped back and forth between 3-4 and 4-3 and often run various hybrids.

    3. The Texans D-Line, though loaded with top draft picks, isn't exactly it's strength. Would it necessarily be bad to experiment and try different looks?

    4. If he really thought he'd need to rebuild the Texans for 3 years, he probably wouldn't be excited about the Texans job as he supposedly has indicated he is. Why wouldn't he take over a team he didn't feel the need to restart from scratch on defense?
     
  17. ubigred

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    Sign him ASAP!

    With Cowher comes instant credibility and national TV games. We will have an established running game (essential to winning in the NFL) and concrete toughness.

    I like you Kubes, but you are Mike Nolan 2.0.
     
  18. ubigred

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    Packers are going to a 3-4 this season with Capers, doing pretty good.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    How much of what Bill did was because of Pitt, and not because of him? Honest question....and I'm only asking because a rookie coach (who I do think is a good coach) won very quickly with the same organization. What were things like in Pitt before Bill hopped on? Was it the Pitt way or the Bill way?

    I guess I'm trying to ask would we see the same kind of stuff in Houston if he were here? Dungy took his style to Tampa and Indy. Gruden did ok in one and failed in another. What makes Bill so good, outside of the accoladed the Steelers got? Has he proven to be a good game manager? Does he go for the win, unlike Kubiak? Etc....
     
  20. Pete Chilcutt

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    I would love to have Cowher. We need a coach who is willing to take risks, get the best out his players and will have the respect of his players. Kubiak is far from that, we cannot have another 8-8 season and keep Gary.
     

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