I like rocketball8's analysis...although you bring up good points...I wish we could have gotten Randy Moss but it didn't happen...Ocho Cinco couldn't co-exist with TO... I do like the pick-up as he will have an immediate impact...but tend to think we over paid, considering he was a FA at season's end and Jerry always over pays...But we need a CB more than anything...
Well-received: Dallas Cowboys' Owens welcomes Roy Williams IRVING – Among the first calls new Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams received Tuesday afternoon was from an excited Terrell Owens. "To get a call from a guy like that, that's saying something," said Williams, whom the Detroit Lions traded to Dallas for three draft picks. "He learned from the greatest in Jerry Rice on how to practice and how to work hard. My situation in Detroit, I never had that. So he's going to be passing on the torch on to me and showing me how to work hard in practice and convert that onto the game on Sunday." http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...ies/101508dnspocowboyswilliams.111b05472.html
Running the ball does not take away double coverage from T.O. That's what's everyone was doing the past three weeks. Now, teams can't do that or they'll pay big time with Williams. Paying $$$ for two WR's isn't a waste of money when your franchise is worth $1.6 billion.
Ouch.. 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks for R. Williams & a 7th? Thats quite alot considering Randy Moss was traded for only a 4th and KC couldn't even get a 2nd for Tony Gonzalez. So its either: 1,3,6 for R. Williams + 7th rd pick. Or... 2, 4 for Randy Moss and Tony Gonzalez. Still could be a good pick for the Cowboys but he better put up some big numbers.
To me, the most important positions on a football team (besides QB, obviously), are CB and O-Line. So in theory, I should agree with you. That said, this is what the Cowboys had last year at CB: Newman Henry Garbage Trash Crap This is what the Cowboys have this year at CB: Newman Henry Jenkins Scandrick Honestly, from the admittedly little I've seen of Scandrick thus far, he's the best THIRD corner Dallas has had in half a decade, let alone FOURTH. Dallas is fine at corner the minute Newman steps back on the field. And as far as the R. Williams trade... hey, I'm a proponent of the idea that big-name WRs are overrated commodities. At the same time though, if you excluded the #1 receiver from every team's depth chart, Dallas's group has to be one of the worst in the league... at least bottom third. Then throw in that TO won't be superhuman forever, and you have to conclude that it was a smart move.
Apples and oranges, especially with the Moss comparison. Moss had a few character question marks coming to NE, to put it mildly, and he's 5 years older than Williams. At the time, most teams just didn't want the guy at all. No one was chasing him. Gonzalez, again, the age thing. Here you have a 32-year-old who's still great right now, but for how much longer for that kind of salary? Williams, on the other hand, is still a younger guy, with a reasonably clean personal life, and from what I understand, he was a guy who several teams wanted. Ergo, the asking price was higher.
It's not about the money. It's all the picks they lost. This makes the Schaub trade look like highway robbery.
Adding Williams will give that offense ridiculous possibilities. There not going to get that much better by adding another CB, that secondary is just banged up. It'd be fine when they get healthy. Miles Austin is not Roy Williams. And a waste of resources? Yeah I'm sure Jerry Jones is worried about not having enough money and managing resources... and for those who think they overpaid. They might have, but sometimes you gotta overpay to get what you want... now.
It's not really about the picks since the Cowboys have a ton of picks next year, so they can affored to do that. If they want, they can package the picks they have to another team who might want their slots to get to get future first rounders. That's what the Cowboys have been doing for the past 3-4 years now.
How is it apples and oranges? Compare each player's first 5 years in the league and Williams is on the bottom of those 3 players. Compare the last 2-3 seasons and Williams doesn't match up, compare the players this season and Williams doesn't match up. Williams is younger but these older guys have and are producing at better rates than him and probably will be good for another few seasons. Several teams inquired about Williams but just as many teams inquired about Gonzalez including the Eagles, Giants, Packers, Bills, and one or two others. It's anything but an apples and oranges comparison.
Running the ball does open up the pass game though and most of the time if your team is successful at running the ball on defense guess what? The defense commits a defensive back to support the running game so double teams are less likely. The $1.6 billion is irrelevant.
When Dallas has the 18th ranked passing defense they're anything but OK at corner. The strength of the Dallas defense is their front 7 and it shows as they are 6th in the league in sacks and 7th in run defense. So they're getting pressure and shutting down the running game on their opponents but the defensive backfield isn't shutting many people down at all. I agree it was a needed move but I believe they gave up too much. We'll just have to wait and see.
They're 18th because Newman has been hurt and/or banged up the whole season. As I said, WHEN NEWMAN IS HEALTHY AGAIN, they're fine. He hasn't been. Injuries are what they are, you can't control them. Is Dallas supposed to acquire another starting-caliber player whenever one of their starters goes down for a month? Sorry, not possible. Something similar would happen to just about any team that loses its star corner.
The age and the attitude problems does indeed make it apples and oranges. Do you not remember just a few years ago where only a handful of teams even said they'd be willing to take Moss, at any price? The whole perception that he was a total cancer, to go with the huge contract and the fact that he was a number of years older than Williams is now? Makes it pretty clear to me that the asking price was going to be a lot lower for Moss. And Gonzalez it's simply an age thing. He's what, 6 years older than Williams? Sure, he might be productive for awhile yet, but what are you guaranteed? 2, 3 years of top-level play? With Williams that number is more like 8.
I've seen a few posters, analysts, and what not claim that Williams just gave up in Detroit. What makes his attitude better exactly? A number of teams stated, when the Moss deal went down, that they would have inquired for him if it only cost a 4th rounder. Nobody actually knew what Oakland would take until it was too late. Besides, Moss only wanted to be traded to the Patriots or Packers and both teams were interested. The asking prices was a lot lower but the results have been a lot better. No player can be guaranteed to be productive in the NFL but Gonzalez has consistently proven to be more productive than Williams. So you're willing to bet Williams will be productive for 8 straight years?
Matt, Dude, I have some serious bones to pick with you. You have been sitting too close to Rich for too long and are starting to absorb his high degree of douche-ness, which he picked up sitting next to King Douche himself, Pallillo. Here's a little story for you: Several weeks ago, I was listening to the radio, listening to a couple of tools talking NFL. Their team had just lost its much-anticipated season-opener, and was looking forward to a bounce-back game against its next opponent. Unfortunately, a big hurricane was also bearing down on their town, and these two guys relayed breaking news: their team's upcoming home game had just been re-scheduled from Sunday afternoon to Monday night. Rather than focusing on what was important - the fact that a hurricane was taking dead aim on their town, instead, all these two nimrods could do was laugh with glee about the "fact" that this schedule change meant that the regularly-scheduled Monday Night Football game (featuring a highly-anticipated match-up between Dallas and Philadelphia) would be blacked out in their town. Completely apart from the fact that these two clowns were totally wrong, and the game was never going to be blacked out, the appalling display of 'schadenfreude' was sickening, given what was about to befall the entire city. That was bad, bad karma. The last thing a person should be doing is taking pleasure in the misfortune of others, *especially* when you know a disaster is already headed straight for you. So how did that work out, eh? 'Boys beat the Iggles in a MNF thriller (which everyone in Houston was going to be able to watch, anyway), the Texans' week was lost, and they then followed that with a drive to 0-4 with some of the most memorable displays of football misfortune I have ever seen. Now I am as happy as anyone that Houston finally broke through with a win. I want them to do well. I am actually a fan of both teams; it's good that the Texans may be turning it around, and I am not happy with Dallas' o-line or the defense in general. And you know as well as I do that there is a significant number of people like me in this market, so I will never understand how anyone in a media business could ever think it makes good business sense to deliberately piss off a large segment of your audience. What, Cowboys fans don't spend $$ on your advertisers? I don't blame you though Matt. In my mind, it's Rich, and you are just getting sucked up into the yankee's orbit. But you are better than that, you are about 100 times better than him as a radio sports personality. You are better than stooping to giggling like a little girl about how so many people might be unhappy about not being able to watch a football game on tv. It wasn't classy, and it was made ten times worse because it came at a time when a hurricane was about to lay the smackdown on this entire region. I am not saying you should act like you love the Cowboys or anything like that. I am just saying that taking a large segment of your audience, people who loyally listen to you every day on the radio, and deliberately treating them like dirt, treating them as though you want to make them stop listening, thus reducing your number of listeners.. it's just very very poor behavior. It makes you guys appear petty. Now Rich, calling him petty would be an insult to petty people. But you are better than that. Just my $.02 as a listener. Oh and um,yes, Dallas DID need another top-shelf wideout in the worst way. Ever since Glenn got tossed, it was inevitable that teams would start doubling TO every play and rolling the dice with everyone else. And it has worked well. This puts a stop to that.
Barry Sanders took the Lions to the playoffs, that's like parting the red sea. He's just jealous that all these suckers are eating crow cause I proved that Pro Bowl Roy Williams was in the Pro Bowl.
