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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    If you want me to believe this outlandish claim you'll have to support it with evidence. If you don't have the information, don't spread misinformation.

    Also, are you saying half of total ICU patients, or half of COVID-19 ICU patients?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    In Texas, ages 50-64 make up 21.6% of the remaining 29.6%

    Ages 49 and under make up the remaining 8% with 40-49 being 5.5% of that 8%

    People in their 20's make up 0.6% of Texas COVID-19 fatalities.

    Also, while there have been something like 6k deaths under 65 in Texas, with most being between 50-64, realize this is out of over a million documented cases and likely twice that or more when you account for asymptomatic or extremely mild cases that never get tested or treated.
     
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    Bobby stfu . Your last whipping should be a lesson to you
     
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    Of course I have evidence. I didn't imagine something such dire on my own.
    And of course I am talking only about the Covid19 ICU patients.

    Here it is :
    The daily official report from the CDC as of yesterday
    https://eody.gov.gr/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/covid-gr-daily-report-20201115.pdf

    Go to page 2, 3rd column.
    18-39 2.3%
    40-64 47.4%
    65+ 50.3%

    Not much difference in genders either. Both women and men are the same.
     
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    Since we have no clue what happens in america's ICU maybe someone else here can give some data about elsewhere.
    @Yung-T , @daywalker02 @omgTHEpotential
    What about yours?
    Do younger ages make such a big % of the intubated ?
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    First of all, I don't read Greek, so I'll have to take your word for it.

    Secondly, it's talking about Greece, not Texas, which is what I was talking about.

    Thirdly, the hospitalization rates and fatality rate among those 65+ is drastically higher than any other age group, so suggesting that those who are hospitalized less frequently with COVID-19 and that die less frequently from COVID-19 are the ones filling up the ICU is.....well, it's counterintuitive.

    To be fair, just because something is counterintuitive doesn't mean it's inaccurate, it's just that I'm going to need to see some evidence that the people who make up only 27.1% of COVID deaths in Texas really are making up half of those who are in the ICU with COVID-19 in Texas.
     
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    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex

    The CDC data does have a slight delay to it, but those numbers are off by over 1000% for the US. Around 2,000 people in their 20s have had died with or from Covid. About 1% of the deaths have been under age 35.

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    Distribution of deaths by age group for the US

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    Distribution of deaths by age group for Texas with death totals on the right

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    There seems to be no real data on this currently, but I found interviews saying they see a lot more young ICU patients than during wave 1.
     
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    CDC's covid-net data has some good information on hospitalization.
    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_5.html

    for ICU admission
    64 year old and under accounts for 53% of ICU patients
    49 and under accounts for 21% of ICU patients

    for hospital admission of the most recent available data Nov 7
    64 and under accounts for 55% of the hospitalized patients
    49 and under accounts for 29% of the hospitalized patients

    for mechanical ventilation
    64 and under accounts for 51% of mechanical ventilation
    49 and under accounts for 17% of mechanical ventilation
     
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    Good find, going by those numbers, 46.6% of COVID-19 ICU patients are 65+ if the cutoff was 60 it would almost certainly be over 50% which overall is about what I'd expect given the case fatality rate and the numbers of known COVID-19 infections per age group.
     
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    In before the Republicans file a lawsuit to throw these fake drive thru tests out.
     
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    I wish I knew the accurate number of how many younger people occupy an IC unit.

    We are going into the 3rd lockdown, a total one.

    What's more is that Austria has 5x more infections than in March and April.(time of the 1st lockdown).

    So I'd say we have approximately 4x or 5x more cases of younger people having Covid than in March.

    4x or 5x more youngins in the ICU.

    Not much of a mathematician myself but those numbers are swirling about.

    Most people are still asymptomatic that said. During the summer youngins partied, travelled alot, they still make up most of the asymptomatic cases.
     
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    Russia looks bad comrades. NSFW.

     
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    So is everyone staying put for the holidays?

    We have a 6 week old. Both of our moms are asking us what we're going to do, and we're kind of putting off giving them an answer, but really are leaning toward just staying home. No one has really seen our baby yet, so that's why people keep asking, but she doesn't even have normal vaccines, so we may have just stayed home in a normal flu season.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Not planning on doing anything differently. There's no super high risk people in my family that haven't already had it and been fine.

    Obviously if anyone was sick or not feeling well they wouldn't be coming, but that's no different than normal.
     
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    My wife and I will be staying home for Thanksgiving. Her father is in his 70s and the risk is not worth it.

    My wife's very elderly grandmother passed away last week from covid. Her funeral is scheduled to be Monday before Thanksgiving. We've also decided not to attend. It's a very tough decision, but we see the funeral as an event for the living, not the deceased. If we are not able to talk and mourn closely with the rest of the family, then we don't see a point in going.

    We also fear that everyone that's going to the funeral will bring covid to more of the family during Thanksgiving.

    On the bright side, my wife's aunt is doing okay. As far as I know, just flu symptoms, no hospitalization yet.
     

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