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Courts release dashcam video of police officer killing Chicago teen. (NSFW)

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    Rahm would never have been reelected mayor if this got out before the election runoff (as it should have)
     
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    That video should make any decent person angry. Justice should be served to the fullest extent of the law.

    Hopefully protesters don't do anything stupid, but that's unlikely.
     
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    Wow that was unreal there are some really bad cops out there i wish there was away to see the other video.All the cops that made seen and had anything to do with the deleting of the other video should also be fired.
     
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    Taking pot shots until you nail a dead man's head? Talk about a psycho.
     
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    Chiraq.

    Even the cops are murdering people.
     
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    Yeah he would have.
     
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    Yeah..... Shooting a 17 year old 15 times after you have already shot him and he is in a fetal position? That is cold callous murder at a minimum if not hatred.

    That is bad enough. But theoretically you can view it as a single cop.

    Erasing camera footage from a Burger King? Claims of erasing tape from a McDonalds by OTHER Chicago police officers? Far worse... It is systemic. The Feds need to come in and clean house. This is not okay. Chicago is the most racist city I have ever been to. The disparity between the white people and the black people socially and economically is staggering. The black people are all shoved together in absolute concrete slums while the whites are for the most part are successful. I have lived here now for well over a decade. It is why I roll my eyes at comments by people in places like Chicago, Ohio and Michigan about how racist the South is.

    Come to Chicago, you will hear about some terrible things and if you go into the bad areas you will see it.

    This officer needs to pay... but the larger issue needs to be addressed by the Feds.
     
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    Thanks. All blacks should obviously consent with you before they decide what to be outraged by.
     
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    Well I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, people in general would sound more intelligent if they checked with me before deciding to get outraged. They'd certainly end up looking like a fool less often if they did.
     
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    Not sure this is 100% cut and dry, especially if you watch the longer video (6+ minutes).

    1. The driver leads the police on a lengthy, high speed chase after the cop pulls up from behind at a stop light.

    2. When the driver gets out of the car, he doesn't follow the cop's orders (a common theme in this year of outrage...)

    3. The driver has his hands very close to his waist, which could be seen as a threat for him to pull out a gun.

    4. The driver was walking erratically, like he was on drugs -- I heard he was on PCP from the autopsy report. Could increase the police's belief that they might get a gun pulled on them.
     
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    It really, really is though.

    Entirely irrelevant.

    Sure, but that's also entirely irrelevant.

    Now that's closer to relevant, it's why the initial shooting would have been seen as a "good shooting", the guy had a knife in his hand and he made a sudden jerky movement that easily could be seen as a threat. The problem is that they didn't just shoot him all in one volley, they shot him then one cop went for kill shots after waiting about 10 seconds or so with the guy barely able to move on the ground. That's what makes it murder.

    Also irrelevant. Since the one cop decided to go for a second round of shots going for a kill shot well after the first round of gunfire ended there's just no argument that it wasn't murder. In fact, that makes it premeditated murder. Illinois doesn't have the death penalty, but if they did, this cop would deserve it.
     
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    ^^

    The points are relevant, because they all dial-up the police's belief that the perp could be a threat to shoot them. You keep harping on the multiple shots, if he's not dead he could still shoot back. I believe it will come down to a judgment call as to how big a perceived threat the perp was before he was shot.
     
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    What you don't seem to understand is that it would justify the initial shooting, but that's not what got the cop charged with murder. What made it murder is that like 10 seconds later the cop decided to go for some kill shots to a defenseless man that had already been shot numerous times that posed no threat whatsoever. He then kicked the 3 inch knife out of his hand....there is no justification for the 2nd round of gunfire.
     
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    Okay.....

    But 16 shots including one to the head?

    No, this is not okay.
     

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