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Courtney Lee secret weapon against elite PGs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. Htown's2kFinest

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    His on-ball defense is great. He was with him on ever step. Lowry is a good defender, but he was getting dusted by Rose. He was just to quick, but Lee showed how fast he can moves his feet when he was guarding him. Hollinger said Lee has the potential to be an elite defender. Definitely seen some great D from him tonight. It's a crime that freaking Chase Budinger is ahead of him in the rotation.
     
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    I think it was a mistake giving a max contract to Yao, after his rookie contract.
     
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    People were talking about Lee playing against small forwards to replace Battier. And Bullard says Lee players talller than this height cuz of his leaping ability (I dont think so...). Just shows how people can look at the same thing and draw different conclusions.

    Lee's measured height is okay against sg's (6-5, 200 lbs). Kobe is 6-6, 200 lbs. Dwyane Wade is 6-4, 212 lbs. Lee is being used just as he should be, a decent backup shooting guard. Not may teams have the 6-7/6-9 guys who can stay laterally in front of Kobe to bother his shot.
     
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    I thought lowry was supposed to be an elite defensive pg?lol
     
  5. Aleron

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    Rose has a faster acceleration and change of direction than paul, not as good vision though.
     
  6. durvasa

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    Wouldn't call him a defensive stopper. I've never really seen that from him. He's a good defender -- he's disruptive and he rebounds. His hustle can be infectious. And he's good at turning good defensive possessions into good offensive possessions because he's aggressive at pushing the ball.

    Lee's 1-on-1 defense is a bit more cerebral -- like Battier's. He seems to understand angles better than Lowry, his lateral quickness isn't any worse, and of course size/length is a big advantage for him.
     
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    I dispute that. In a straight line Rose is faster. But as far as waterbug-like juking left and right and back again change of direction, there aren't many people who can match Paul. In many ways, it is a function of inertia and their differing masses and centers of gravity.

    In any case, I'd feel comfortable with Lee on Rose for stretches, but not on Paul.
     
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    durvasa, posters were calling lowry an elite defensive pg. They didnt say ok, they said elite like to 3 or so. I think lowry's biggest attribute defensively is that he competes, but the same can said of sasha from la.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Lowry's defense is more on the combative side, and less on the good defender or quickness side.

    He is not even close to an elite defender, average PGs blow by him with no trouble at all, but he does rebound well, pushes the ball in transition and competes hard....

    DD
     
  11. Noob Cake

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    True, Courtney has more lateral speed. Lowry's defense is the more physical Artest style defense.

    And you thinking about Brooks when you wrote that?
     
  12. trugoy

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    He is elite, there are no PGs that can stop Rose, don't you remember his rookie year playoff performance against Rondo? supposedly the best defensive point in the game?
     
  13. DaDakota

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    No but Brooks gets blown by too....neither Brooks or Lowry is a great defender....

    Lowry is much better but he is not as good as a lot of people on here think he is at defense.

    DD
     
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    Between Lowry and Lee, the team can defend most PGs and SGs in the league. Plus, Lee can also slide to the SF spot in limited small-ball matchups.

    Lowry's a great defender but sometimes the size disadvantage against bigger guards is too great to overcome. Which is why it's really an advantage to have someone with Lee's size and ballhandling ability to be able to man the PG spot.

    Also, it's a small sample size but I think Lee looks more comfortable when he gets to share in the ballhandling duties even a little instead of playing strictly off-the-ball. (Perhaps what the team envisions for Chase "Point Forward" Budinger in the future?)

    Anyway, another great tweak in the rotation by the coach.
     
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    I like lee, but he cant play the 3 defensively and has problems against bigger 2's. Now, if the 2 is a ray allen type of guy,yeah, he can guard those kind of sg's,but he has trouble guarding stephen jackson type. As far as sf, he has trouble against all the bigger guys because he's smallish. Pietrus is as good of a defender as a sg/sg defender. Courtney can probably do a better job against a williams,billups,miller type of pg.
     
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    Yeah I think the Rockets oversold his ability to defend the 3 spot. Still, he's been effective as a forward in certain small-ball situations.

    Plus, his ability to defend the bigger PGs and hit the spot-up jumpers will really help when Adelman plays him next to Brooks for certain matchups.
     
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    Lee can guard those elite PGs as long as Brooks/Lowry has a guardable match-up at the 2. Tonight Lowry guard Korver where to defend him is following everywhere he goes off the ball to deny his catch and shoot.
     
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    He is athletic. His shooting is also coming around.

    But I still have a lot of concerns about his BB IQ. He makes a lot of questionable decisions in the end game. I don't know if I want to trust him with the game on the line.
     
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    Lowry is a top 5 defensive point guard and Lee is coming on strong both defensively and with his shooting. He's up to 50% from 3.

    I believe the guard rotation that Adelman is developing is Lowry/Martin/Lee, with each of them playing around 30-35 minutes and eating up the guard minutes with Lee splitting between SG and PG. The more experience Lee gets and the more he learns the nuances of Adelman's system the more minutes we are going to see him at the point.

    Defensively, because of Lowry's ability to guard SGs, with Lee and Lowry out there together, it makes it so much easier for them to switch off.
     

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