I'm sure he wouldn't be. I'm not religious and never said that I was, so why do my actions reflect those of my religions. I will defend the religion until I die, and maybe some day I can live up to the teachings taught in Islam. Aren't one of the 10 commandments, thou shall not steal, yet how many Christians are in jail for thievery/bank robbery etc. You dont see me saying that Jesus will be proud. Its mighty low of you to generalize like that. Also maybe if I was a little more religious I would never steal, 1. in fear of the punishment in this life - chopping hands off 2. in fear of the punishment in the after life...
Perhaps you should not steal, simply because everytime you steal, you hurt someone. Even if the bottom line belongs to Walmart or some other big corporation, perhaps the clerk who is on duty when you steal, gets fired because of it. Stealing is wrong. You can try and justify it however you want, but it's wrong. Do you feel good about it after you steal?
why do people feel that the wealthy owe those less fortunate some of their money or should pay more taxes just b/c of financial status? sure, the owners of walmart are billionaires. but, they are already doing those workers a favor by employing them. $6/hour is crap but that's all the position is worth. most of the people who are wealthy have earned that money and have no obligation to just give it away. you give someone a handout, and that's all they'll do, have a hand out. if you dont like your job, do as Mr. Pink says, "Learn to fcuking type."
I'm pretty sure all the people who have control of the Wal-Mart fortunate inherited their wealth from Mr. Walton and did not have to work for ****.
It's hard not to reply when folks admit they steal boxers, flowers, gas, etc. or create/use scams in order to save a few bucks off of products they purchase and seemingly (at least for some) feel no remorse.
Does that make it right to steal from them or scam them using various coupon "techniques"? As far as I am concerned, if you take a penny off of Donald Trump's desk, it is wrong. You are taking something that does not belong to you.
Doesn't make it right but I was just responding to the statement that wealthy people usually work hard for their money. Although some have, many wealthy people are just handed their fortunes. It's never right to steal.
it doesn't matter. the founder worked hard to build walmart and it's his right to give the company and money to his kids. and even if it's inherited, that doesn't change the fact that it's their money. and if you look at the facts, the majority of wealthy people DID earn the money themselves. a small percent only have inherited it or say won the lottery. besides, walmart is one of the most inexpesive places to shop. stealing only leads to higher prices.
It's a pretty f***ed up world if stealing is deemed OK, while me expressing my opinion about passing on that midset to one's children is not. Has the PC movement gone that far? Theft is a crime in every state in the US and (afaik) every country in the world. That's really not an "indivually subjective" point of view.
The sad thing is, by stealing, no one is getting over on Wal-Mart or whoever. We all pay for it in the end when they raise prices to compensate for theft.
Don't get me wrong, I would never say that stealing is okay. Nor would I ever wish to pass values like that on to my children. I agree with you 100% in principle. But it's hard to judge someone's values based solely on a random post on a basketball site. It's just, like the "Don't be bringin' my momma into this" problem we encounter with some people; I wish you wouldn't bring people's kids into a discussion that's really just a "who has the wildest Wal Mart story" competition. Morals are different than laws, though. It's morally incorrect to be a hardcore drinker, but it's perfectly legal and widely accepted. In law, it's either legal or illegal. Morality is much too gray to universally yield a boolean value.
You can cetainly judge someone's values when they post that they steal (boxers, flowers, gas, etc.) at least as they pertain to that instance. Anyone who admits they steal for no apparent reason other than "thrills" has a warped sense of values that is not consistent with most people in this country. I would think the vast amount of Americans, would hope that people who steal would not pass those values down to their children. As you wrote - "In law, it's either legal or illegal". The posts in which people describe their thefts are posts describing illegal acts. Hopefully all of the self-admitted thieves will see the errors of their ways. In the meantime, I (and I suspect the vast majority of people) hope that others do not learn from their actions.
The vast majority of poor people who don't steal are far less concerned with ethics than they are with getting arrested.
Was there some sort of poll I missed on that topic, thadeus? Is it different for rich people who don't steal?
I find personal experience and a realistic estimation of human nature far more valuable than a CNN poll or Time magazine op-ed piece - but, of course, that requires having some experience of these sorts of things in the first place, doesn't it? Then again, we all know that CNN polling is the only possible objective measure of reality, right? Yes.
Why don't you donate a pair of boxers or the money it would have cost you to Clutch's tip jar Robin Hood?
No, though I do think some sort of in-depth study is generally more accurate than anecdotal observations and experience. Many times what we think we know by common knowledge is far from reality. I have lots of personal experience in various areas, but I would never dare to say that my dealings with the comparatively small number of people I've dealt with in my life makes for a representative-enough sample from which I can extrapolate to the entire population. And how is it for rich people who don't steal? They don't have a fear of prosecution, according to your experience, what is it that prevents them from stealing? Just out of curiousity.
