>And PPS: Screw Mase. Sign Chucky. Wondered when that was coming. Even if this does not drop to a developmental year, a little bit o' Pig and a whole lotta Chucky would suit me fine. Their hustle can only help. I would rather see Chucky bustin' it up and down the floor than Cato slouchin' it, even if Cato were more productive. ....and have you seen our record with Chucky? You gotta be kiddin' me. The guy is like an energized rabbit's foot.
"Development year" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Pops say it aint so. I couldn't stand our goal to be..."let's go out there and have some fun"
Even without Mo we will be better than last year. Rice will pick up the points difference between Kenny/Griffin and Mo. And surely we are not done adding a couple more pieces. Anyone catch that CD said Cato would be much better because he was injured the last couple years and now is healthy again?
OP, Assuming that we get the Medical Exception, in your opinion, do you think that Golden State would accept a conditional future #1 pick as compensation for not matching our offer to Jackson or would they force us to exchange players? I'm asking this because, while Sura would be a nice addition to the team, it just seems that Walt's expiring contract would help us a lot more in another trade for some front line help.
1. My view on the "Curry Stuff" 2. I think the GSW route is probably the most advantageous for us right now. I think Jackson would help us a lot, and may be the cheapest in the longrun (and short run). Sura's contract scares me. I like Mookie because of his contract, and Walt for Mook just fits so damn nice. And, from what I hear Moochie's agent is close to being thrown from the train like mama. 3. Dell Curry I don't want. He is redundant. Stop torturing yourself Mickey. 4. Actually, Chucky Brown is not that bad an idea. He was one of those guys I thought RT would have pulled out near the end of the summer and added to "round out" the roster. he looks even more fitting now. ( I mean, ya gotta know CBFC will go absolutely insane if this happens.) Cheers.
Since the Mo injury, I haven't heard anything about Othella. He was rumored to be availaible earlier int he summer. I don't think the rockets had what the Knicks want and the rockets didn't want Othella at that the Knicks price. It would seem the rockets would be willing to pay more now for Othella than before. Popeye, are the talks about Othella getting a weak pulse or still a flatline.
Haven't heard a thing since after the Shandon Anderson deal, JJ. My guess is that if a deal could get done, it would have been done at that time. The injury to MoTay does not change anything IMHO. If he was wanted then by the Rockets it would have got done. If he was not wanted at that time he is no more desirable(or less) now. What I keep hearing is CD is serious about getting Jackson, but it is very difficult to do with GSW. The fact that Mooch is held up doesn't help either. Actually I am beginning to think (speculation on my part) that Moochie may be the hold up for a couple of things. I do know (yes know) that they have given Mooch a "timetable". In the real world we call that an ultimatum with a clock ticking. In short, I think O is out of the picture.
I'd bet this timetable has been changed due to the Disabled Player Exception petition. Right now the Rockets have ~$1.5m in salary cap room (according to JuanValdez). If Moochie leaves, that is upped to ~$2m. Before the exception petition, they can only let Moochie go to get $2m in capspace to use on free agents. But now with an exception, they have new money to spend no matter what Moochie does. imo, the "timetable" should wait for the exception ruling.
I always knew Mo' was injury prone... what happened LAST SEASON, can you spell A N O T H E R I N J U R Y 4 M O ? please forgive my tone of voice... it's my first post EVER...
Crisp: I would take that bet. Swollen Y: I never have a problem when a guys gets injured by trying to hard or working on his game or showing drive to excel. Now if cato shows up with another hangnail, I will literally hire cheerleaders mom to go visit his crib. PS: Welcome. Stop yelling. LOL Achebe: Nate is still truckin' and apparently planning on going back over the pond soon. He turned some heads but no offers. Axel is still around, in LA with friends I think. Pig is at home and hasn't tried out with anyone I don't think.he was supposed to get a chance with Atlanta, but have no idea where that is. Sabonis is over the pond and in the hills and burns up his phone. Santiago is in Phoenix last I heard. Almost all of these guys will only come out of the woodwork if/when camps start and fillers and injuries start to appear. One of the questions is .... where is Kelvin in all this hoopla????? If we agree that a center spot still is gapingly wide open. and my guess is - if the move that CD is contemplating right now does not come of - well, he will likely opt to go with one of these guys to tap that gap as a filler ..... but a .... Question for my main homeys .... In IMHO, there is no financial advantage (that I can see anyway - help here HeyPee), for waiting until next year to make a move to solidify the five spot. In other words, what disadvantage is it to firm up a strong* five spot now (in lieu of just adding another filler* this year) if it is possible to do so. Barring the ubiquitous and perennial "blockbuster" moves between seasons next year ... who would be available for us and why wait for talent til then? * definition of "strong" - a roster spot that can start or come of the bench to provide impact either in Defense or Offense or both. * definition of "filler" - a roster spot that is benched, rarely started and used only if the main depth is overwhelmed or ineffective.
CRISPEE, OP If the timetable for the exception is a minimum 30 days, or worse longer, we could be into the season before the balance of deals are done (Jackson, Mooch, Griffin, TMo, etc...) To me that doesn't seem like an option when you cosider all the remaining signings that we have, or is it? We may not even get the exception since there is no guarantee. What would be the Rox own timetable in this scenario?
Thanks OP, BTW, what do you think of acquiring Danny Fortson from GSW instead of Marc Jackson? He matches really well w/ Walt's salary... BTW2, what is Les' feeling about the luxury tax? Does it make Walt more attractive to the Rockets?
Achebe, There has been some good argument on the board that we may not even get the exception. If the poss. exists that we might not get it, I wonder when we would need to know before a deal we would want to take might slip by?
RudyBall: I posted somewhere else that the disability exception was a hot topic over the summer between the league and the owners. One of the things that apparently came out of it was a league committment for better understanding of their role. This was supposed to translate to "friendlier and kinder" (read that as: more expedient process and more acceptable definition) rulings. I somehow do not expect it to be 30 days or more. I am also optimistic (maybe more than many posters here) that we will indeed get it. Crispee is more astute than I when it comes to money and the CBA. But I don not think it has as much to do with the CBA, as the willingness of the Rockets to pay above value for any player. Case in poiint: Moochie - he could have been signed almost anytime previous (well, the timing would have had to come before some and after others) but the hold up now is the amount of money his agent is asking for .... not when etc ... The Rockets want him to say yes so they get on with other things. Since the MoTay thing the Rockets have started more earnest talks with other available players and are exploring different options than previous. (Maybe I should say in some cases the same options but on a more accelerated pace). I know that Mooch has been told to please have an answer for us on _____ date. Achebe: In a lot of ways Fortson may be the better deal. But I doubt GSW will pull the trigger on that. And, CD will be leery of recently injured Forston so soon after MoTay's injury. So I guess my honest answer is I don't know, but I would doubt that it is a viable option from either team's perspective. One of Les's demands this year was to shave down the payroll to get what had to be got ( whatever RT needed to be successful), but to stay well below the luxury tax. We have some room before we have to worrying about that this year. Next year it may get a little tighter, but this year looks good. This is just conjecture on my part but I think Les's view is like most fan's view. Walt is a luxury we cannot afford this year. End of story. Cheers, guys.
There is nothing in the CBA that mentions a time table for dealing with a petition. And certainly the Heat were dealt with in less than 30 days. I'd agree that if it took 30 days, we wouldn't wait. I'm talking about 14-20 days. Petitions for NJ took over a month, but that is likely because they couldn't even be used until August 1st anyhow....they were denied the day before they could start using it. In Mourning's situation, the Heat appeared to not submit one right away due to PR concerns, and their petition was answered in less than 20 days, possibly even 2 weeks. It is hard to tell, because the petition wasn't announced in the press, as far as I can tell. The formal announcement of Mourning out for the year was Oct 16th; the petition was granted on Nov 4th. The league seemed to use Oct 11th as the start date for using the exception; that, you have 45 days to use it from the point of knowing it was a season-ending injury, and the Heat ended up with a Nov 26th deadline to use it. Nov 26th minus 45 days is ~Oct 11th. <b>oeilpere</b> Maybe I shouldn't have said "bet." I really believe Moochie is more important with this injury, and more important than the exception. I was just adding that being denied the exception is reason to let Moochie go, from a purely salary cap analysis.
