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Countdown to T-Mac's return remains on hold

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dingaaa, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Surfguy

    Surfguy Member

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    This is more about Adelman than it is Tmac. Adelman made mistakes with Tmac last season by letting him play based on Tmac's input. That obviously backfired. Now, Adelman has taken control ruling out Tmac's input and basically said "you'll play when I say you can play". Adelman is attempting to correct his coaching failure from last season. It also means Tmac basically screwed himself last season by trying to come back too soon from injury and Adelman let it happen. So, when Tmac is now saying "he's ready" and all that...it means nothing because we heard this before and it ended his season when it was all said and done. As hard as it is for me to admit, Adelman is probably doing the right thing. Tmac cannot be trusted to speak on when he is ready...because his bias for just wanting to play is an obvious factor. Adelman is being objective about it and Tmac is being subjective about it.

    As much as I want Tmac back in action, Adelman ultimately is the one who has to make the call. Rockets are not going anywhere anyway...so I'm not sure I care all that much. I care to see if Tmac can return to all-star form for us...without the rest of the team standing around wondering how they fit with Tmac back.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't think Adelman is "trying" to teach T-mac anything. I think Adelman's apporach forces t-mac to learn some things though.

    Adelman is only trying to protect what he has done and ensure that the team doesn't go backwards. In the past, he has let his players walk over him - with Chris Webber, with Ron Artest in Sac-town and Here, and with T-mac last year. He's doing what he believes is best for the team.

    Now, if the additional net effect of that is that T-mac has to change for the better if he wants to remain a Rocket - hey, who's going to complain?
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I agree with this post. And I don't think the Rockets have ruled out a T-mac and Yao led team in 2010-2011. The Rockets are playing for this season, but Morey and Adelman are also thinking about next season.

    I think the way T-mac handles himself in the next few months will determine his future with the Rockets.

    I think T-mac knows this.
     
  4. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Uh...okay :confused:
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I remember last season quite differently from you. It seemed to me that McGrady was saying he was injured and couldn't play, and the Rockets were telling him to nut up and play. They had the Big 3 with Artest joining, and they wanted so badly -- too badly -- for everything to go according to plan. So, McGrady tried to play whenever he could manage it, which was intermittent because he really was injured. The Rockets didn't want to believe he was injured and thought he was just being a cry-baby and ruining their season.

    I don't think Adelman's current position on McGrady's readiness is anything more than a stalling tactic so they can trade McGrady before he ever dons another Rockets uniform (which might be why he did it on 11/18). McGrady was telling everyone all of last season that he was injured and couldn't play. He was right. This year, he says he's healthy. I tend to think McGrady is right about his readiness.

    EDIT: Why do they keep writing articles about the Rockets not having a timetable for McGrady's return? In other words, nothing has changed; they have no story. Get back to me when the Rockets do have a timetable.
     
  6. EssTooKayTD

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    Rick doesn't want to mess up a team that is 2 games over .500? Hmmm...
     
  7. TimRox

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    I agree with what coach Adelman said but i still think he is selfish. He wants to prove that his team doesn't need superstar to be a competitor. Few more wins and when the league crowns him the Coach of the Month title, we will see Tmac's return.
     
  8. Dave_78

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    Judging by the quotes from the actual players going against him in practice he isn't capable of performing in an NBA game. From Shane's quote it doesn't sound like he is even practicing at full speed.

    Chill with the conspiracy theory and just accept that the guy is on an average time table for returning from microfracture surgery. Why would the coach want to bring a player back who isn't ready? That's a stupid thing to do for the team and for the player.
     
  9. cheke64

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    Adelman is afraid of telling him to come off the bench. How can they seat almost next to each other in road games and not talk? Just silly behavior from both.
     
  10. durvasa

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    You should put the link at the top of the post when creating threads.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/faq.php?faq=faq_etq#faq_faq_etq_postarticle

     
  11. CaptainRox

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    T-Mac has proven he's a good guy ( 3 points documentary/charity work, quieted down from a bs "diva" title, and he seems on the same level as Adelman now)and does not deserve Stephon Marbury treatment, I hope he plays before 2009 is over.
     
  12. caneks

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    I believe the Organization has treated him extremely well. This club believed in his ability, his words, and gave him a big contract, which makes him now the best paid player in NBA. However, this is probably the biggest mistake the club had in years. The team, imo, should be more objective and cautious to believe in anyone who could even cheat on his family.
     
  13. Yetti

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    Sounds like a personal vendetta to me. Les needs to step in and get his best player back in the game. :p
    Especially as we are on the cusp!
     
  14. CaptainRox

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    Yeah he (Les) does, he did last year during the trade deadline, saying he wouldnt trade a super star. Plus McGrady coming back would fill seats not only in the Toyota Center but also at the couches at home who would be tuning into fox sports and NBA LP.
     
  15. Hball

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    I just want to see him with this cast.. he'll finally get to play with other players that can create for themselves, playing with rafer and battier in the starting lineup is why he's had to be a ball stopper because he's always had to create for them. I just hope he gets an opportunity to play with brooks and ariza, he won't have all the pressure on him to create everything on the perimeter like he use too. Honestly I don't think Adelman wants to play mcgrady even if he was healthy or back to his old form, their is definitely an issue between him and t-mac, and he has shown how he can be stubborn like with the Francis situation.
     
  16. Possum

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    No one should be GIVEN anything. It should be EARNED! I think that is the point Adelman is trying to make. Everyone on this team has earned their playing time and if TMac wants to play he will to. No more playing time just because of who you are. Cmon TMac if you are really ready SHOW IT in PRACTICE. You do that and Adelman wont be able to keep you out of the lineup.

    Does anyone really beleive that if TMac was outperforming his competition in practice that Adelman wouldnt be playing him? I love it! No more prima donna BS you either earnit it or sit it. Its the way it should be,,,for everyone!
     
  17. t_mac1

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    are you telling me tmac hasn't been outperforming brian cook just to be activated? are you telling me he's not better than any of the top 8 guys right now on this team? this is more than just tmac being able to practice and outperforming the guys ahead of him.

    adelman clearly doesn't want to disrupt the rotation and chemistry right now (hence bringing up what role tracy will have to play and how many minutes). with their differences, i'm not sure if adelman is comfortable giving tracy 30+ minutes.
     
  18. Shaud

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    Different Day
    Different Thread
    Same ole story
    Nothing new
     
  19. Hball

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    I do believe that, because even if brooks was outperforming alston adelman would always put rafer back on the floor, same with budinger outperforming battier or even his personal issue's with wafer even when we could have used his slashing ability over artest's jackup 3's, or francis abilty to get to the line over alston 32% bricks. The way I see it, he doesn't just go by how players perform.
     
  20. Notorious_Flava

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    are ya kidding me? Tracy McGrady be 5th on da depth chart and he'll gots ta work his way up?????? that's some major BS man. T-Mac be a superstar how dare ya disgrace his name by puttin him behind Chase Budinger.
    -N. Flava
     

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