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Could Yao Ming make the All-Defensive Team this year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 8, 2009.

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will Yao Ming make the all-defensive team this year?

  1. Yes, He'll be in the 1st team

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  2. Yes, He'll be in the 2nd team

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  3. No, his defense isn't good enough just yet

    21.8%
  4. He'll never make it ever.

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  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    they don't really care for positions. last yr, they had dwight at 2nd team with prince and battier at forwards.

    hell i remember one year they had SIX guys on all-nba defense 1st team.

    yao hasn't dominated defensively consistently throughout the year and hasn't shut down anyone on a national stage consistently for him to show that. i rarely hear commentators/analysts rave about yao's D.

    we know his value and he's a good anchor for us.
     
  2. OlajuwonShake34

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    I'm guessing you haven't been watching Rockets game lately, because he has been the reason why we have been winning games and that's due to defense.

    Dwight Howard was listed as a center last year, and Battier and Prince forwards. So you make no sense making that point.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    he might. we don't know. chances are low though.
     
  4. crash5179

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    I will agree with your comparison of Mark Eaton. Fortunately for Eaton he played in a league where Centers were mostly back to the basket, there was no three point line when he came into the league and he rarely had to come out of the post. You are right Eaton did have many of the same limitations as Yao Ming.

    Eaton never had to guard players that would pull him out of the post. Bill Lambeir or Jack Sikma might have pulled him away from the post some but most the centers were low post players.

    Yao Ming would have been just as good or better than Eaton IMO defensively. Eaton was a superior shot blocker but Yao is better in every other way. I'm also not sure that Yao would not have blocked 3 or 4 shots a game with all the extra post play back then.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    my point was neither prince or battier was a PF. both were SF. so they don't care for positions that much.

    they could put yao and dwight on 1st team if they wanted. just like in 05-06, they had SIX guys on all-nba 1st team.

    yao is one of the reasons for our improved defense, not the main reason. the denver game was one of our best defensive games in a while and yao played only 26 minutes. artest getting healthier, shane getting healthier, lowry implemented, and practicing more is allowing us to get back that defensive intensity this team has known for the past 4-5 years.
     
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    Are you saying that Yao is a better defender than Howard?
     
  7. OlajuwonShake34

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    Never said that, All I said was Howard was listed as a center last year. Nothing more. :rolleyes:
     
  8. OlajuwonShake34

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    Yes, you're right there about it's just forwards and guards, but Since Duncan is listed as a forward and not a center. That will open a spot up for the center position.
     
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    What is your point...Dwight Howard is a center.
     
  10. OlajuwonShake34

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    You don't get it, forget it. I don't even know why you are joining in our conversation, especially when he makes no sense. It seems like you are just trying to argue with me if anything.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    if you think he'll make it, that's great. hopefully he will.

    there's no national talk about yao's defense so i don't think he'll make it. that's all.

    at least we can agree that howard will win DPOY, which i don't agree with but o well.
     
  12. OlajuwonShake34

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    By the way here is my All-Defensive Teams

    1st Team
    G: Chris Paul
    G: Kobe
    F: KG
    F: Duncan
    C: Howard

    2nd Team
    G: Billups/Rondo - Hard to decide
    G: Wade
    F: Artest
    F: LeBron
    C: Yao
     
  13. letsdoit

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    I :( dont think scola can grab so much rebs without yao~
     
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    Not with Dwight Howard leaps and bounds ahead of #2 in BOTH rebounding and blocking.

    Probably 2nd team since Tim Duncan's been listed as PF with Oberto being the C for the Spurs.
     
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    Again, nobody said First team, just one of the teams. And Matt Bonner starts center for the Spurs, even though I think it's quite clear Duncan is clearly the real center they just list Duncan as a forward.
     
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    Some of you guys need to have your own opinion and not just completely listen to the Media. Even so, Not making it yet is a more accurate choice than never making it.
     
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    Very good point, and Shaq also got in. Same goes for Pat Ewing and Mark Eaton.

    Just to let you know Maurice Brooks the MVP awards watcher on ESPN has been noticing Yao's defense as well, Although he did not put him as Top 5 in the DPOY category. He did mention his defense in the MVP race

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/awards?page=awards-090310
     
  18. daoshi

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    Come on, let's get real. Yao is not even above average in that department.

    Yao's height provides him both advantage & disadvantage at the same time. On the good side, his height can disrupt many shots, and limit the penetration; but on the other side, his slow movement makes him an easy target for other team to attack the ring, and draw a easy foul from him since he is usually late to get to the position; the fatal part of his game is when he has to face a player who can shoot from 15ft out, that's why the Rockets have such a hard time dealing with the Jazz.
     
  19. OlajuwonShake34

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    Are you kidding me? his size alone makes him an above avrage defender. Yeah he is limited and he may be a liability every now and then. But his size is clearly more of a plus than a minus on the defensive side. Watch some more tapes man especially of the players in the past.
     
  20. OlajuwonShake34

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    I agree a lot, I would also prefer Yao Ming being listed as an All-NBA first team member over All-Defensive team.

    However, I would def. prefer having Yao being listed as a 2nd All-NBA Team member and a 2nd All-NBA Defensive team member. Shows he's one of the elites.

    It doesn't really show he is inferior to Howard. From what I recalled in the 1994-1995 Season. David Robinson was in All-NBA 1st team and 1st defensive team. Nobody in the world outside of SA, could say David Robinson is or ever was the better player than Hakeem Olajuwon. By the way, Hakeem didn't even make the All-Defensive team that year because Mutombo entered the league.

    But as you said, Yao's got a chance to make the 2nd team It might take stretch, but he's got a shot. You should've voted for He will make 2nd defensive team or his defense isn't good enough yet. Not he'll never make it, because he'll always have a chance to make it.
     

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