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Could the Rockets lose Troy Daniels via the Gilbert Arenas Provision in 2015?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

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    Per shamsports Troy Daniels is signed through next season (team option in 14/15). That makes him a player with less than 3 years in the league when he becomes a free agent which means next summer an opposing team could make Troy Daniels a similar offer to the one Daryl Morey made Asik and Lin.

    Troy Daniels is getting noticed in the play-offs with his deadly and accurate 3point shot. He is almost certainly going to have a major spot in the rotation next season and if he continues to be instant offense off of the bench teams are going to chase him hard IMO. I definitely see this guy improving and turning into a special player off of the bench.

    Does anyone know if there is anything in his contract that could save the Rockets from the Gilbert Arenas Provision or are the Rockets just preparing Daniels for a lucrative contract with his next team? Daryl Morey typically tries to control players for 3 seasons minimum to prevent this scenario and control them as restricted free agents when their contracts are up. Was there something that prevented Daryl from signing Daniels to a 3rd ungarunteed or team option year?
     
  2. mickey_angelo

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    Does this season count as his first season? If yes, then he was signed for 3 years so wouldn't that not apply to him
     
  3. Clutch

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    I believe, like Beverley and Greg Smith, Daniels signed a three-year deal, with the final two years being non-guaranteed team options for the Rockets.
     
  4. xrym

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    He has a long way to go. It is too early to discuss his contract.

     
  5. tmacfor35

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    Rockets need to replace Bev with Daniels in the starting line-up.

    Team will light it up.
     
  6. duluth111222

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    Fixed it for you.
     
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    I see that the Rockets are getting a specialist 3 point shooter for a one-year 816K deal next year. That's a huge score either way you look at it.


    -The way I understand the rule after next Summer going into the 2015/16 season, the Rockets will have a qualifying offer of 1.147 mil which will probably be making him a restricted free agent.

    Per Luke Adams who is siting Larry Coon- (FYI, I'm sure you know all this Crash)

    The Arenas provision limits the first-year salary that teams can offer restricted free agents who have only been in the league for one or two years. The starting salary for an offer sheet can't exceed the amount of the non-taxpayer mid-level exception, which allows the player's original team to use its MLE to match it. Otherwise, a team without the necessary cap space or exceptions would be powerless to keep its player, like the Warriors were with Arenas.

    A rival offer sheet can still have an average annual salary that exceeds the non-taxpayer MLE, however. The annual raises are limited to 4.5% between years one and two, and 4.1% between years three and four, but a significant raise can be included between the second and third years of the offer. A team's cap space dictates the average annual salary limit for the entire contract, since the average salary still has to fit under the cap.



    -So yes it does look like Daniels would fall under the Gilbert Arenas rule since he will have been in the league for 2 years at that point. Unless online sites are wrong about his contract, the 3rd year looks to be a qualifying offer which will make him a restricted free agent that Summer similar to Lin's contract with the Knicks before he went to restricted free agency.

    The only thing to be concerned about now though is whether or not a team will offer the full non-tax payer mid-level amount to Daniels. Right now, it wouldn't seem likely unless Daniels explodes next year. If a rival GM with the cap-space loves what Daniels does next year, and gives him a poison pill contract much like the Lin/Asik contract.... So be it.

    Either way you look at it, the Rockets are probably getting a bargain next year. After that, we'll just have to wait and see.
     
  8. crash5179

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    That's Neanderthal thinking. You don't always know who will and who will not break out so you always try at get someone young on some kind of three year deal (team options or ungarunteesd years). If you wait till they prove themselves then you are too late and some other team will end up signing them away from you.

    Imagine if the Rockets had used your logic on Chandler Parsons or Pat Beverly.

    What makes this odd is that the Rockets typically use 3 year deals on rookies with any amount of promise so I find it odd that they did not follow their standard philosophy with Daniels contract.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    Correct me if I am wrong but I thought you could only offer a max of 2 years using the vet minimum or room exception. And to my knowledge that's all we had left after using all of our cap space signing Howard and Canaan.

    No more money left for Troy. And if that's true then the OP is correct. Perhaps the Rockets and Daniels could agree to terminate the contract and start all over but if you do that it would be on good faith that Daniels would sign with you. Morey doesn't trust that process (See Parsons) which means we have Daniels next year and if he explodes so will his contract demands.
     
  10. crash5179

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    You are right about that, all the Rockets had left was the Room Exception and Minimum. Like you said, both are max 2 year contracts which explain why Daniels only has a 2 year deal.
     

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