Could someone be a "selfish" player and get assists?

Not true. If you have search option, and look at some of my older posts, you will find me defending McGrady. I was willing to overlook his deficiencies as long as he would benefit the team overall. I was willing to look past his selfishness and his selfish comments to the press as long as he performed on the court. I was never past his taking a season off for "personal reasons" but I let it go the next year. I was willing to look past him continually taking first half of season off and playing in cruise mode, if he took the team to places in post season. Given his history, and the timing of his announced surgery,it is very appropriate to question his intentions. Tracy McGrady pushed the limits this season and even his own coach called him out.

I was a McGrady fan. However, given that he has hurt the Rockets, I am not one anymore.

Rockets first, players second.

 

I still dont understand how having microfracture surgery = taking a season off for being selfish??? Also, when did he take off games in the regular season?? The year of his personal issues was teh same year his back gave out on him no? Last year was one where he poured everything he had into this team. I dont think anyone would doubt his effort. See the thing is Mcgrady is selfish, just not for most of the reasons you think. You are right when you say he wants the ball to run through him at all times. Thats what superstars want. The main problem with him is that hes not a winner. He does not know what it takes to win. He cant 'take his team to the next level' meaning he CAN (or used to be able to) elevate his own play, but he was not the leader that elevated everyones play.

 

You sound like a lover scorned. Once a fan, always a fan. I don't understand you fairweather types.

 

McGrady, nor anyone else cares what you are willing to look past. You soap opera sports fans are a joke. You should tune into some WWE.

Two kinds of selfish? Honestly. Go play some jacks or tiddly winks. If McGrady comes back healthy next year and averages 26 points a game, will you "love him again"? LOL @ the likes of you.

 

This is a Rockets board. Cant wait for McGrady fanboys to get on the train once he is done as a Rocket.

PS. Played with Pippen bobblehead lately?

 

*Laugh*

McGrady has enough problems as it is with other issues. You expect him to come back and go on a tear after a well known career setback injury???

IF he comes back and looks beyond his selfishness and helps team win, then yeah I will be a fan again. He does not need to score 26 points for me to appreciate him. If he comes back and scores 26 points, while he keeps up with his soap opera, and team still goes out in first round, no I wont be a fan. Your statement reveals that you are more interested in McGrady getting his numbers than Rockets winning.

The Irony of you not being a fan of soap opera yet riding McGrady's jock.....

 

I'm honestly not interested in much regarding the entire McGrady soap opera. I just think fans like you are a joke and would be better off watching something more geared for your emotional investment, like WWE or something.

 

I'm interested in the Rockets winning. I don't care how it happens, unlike some of you kids.

 

Your posts contradict your claim above.

Personal jabs aside, not surprisingly, you failed to address your point of McGrady going on a tear one year after a Microfracture surgery.

 

In two years when you get into high school, maybe you'll be better equipped to recognize hypothetical situations.

 

It's the definition of Stephon Marbury.

 

It takes a 5 year old two hands to count the number of times Mcgrady has been kicked out of the first round.

The age old "what ifs" regarding McGrady. I am glad Rockets finally decided to give up on Mcbabysitting and are looking to trade him. Tells me what they think of your hypothetical situation.

Try keeping it just a little bit in the realm of possibility eh? The fact that you thought Tracy McGrady would come back as a Rocket, one year after microfracture surgery and light up the scoreboard tells me how delusional McGrady fans have become. Never mind the fact that does not even necessarily equate to helping the Rockets. Maybe you McGrady fans get all excited when he scores 26 points a game yet his teams keep getting their asses kicked in first round, but I doubt Rocket fans are too thrilled with it.

It's not about Tracy McGrady. It's about Houston Rockets.

 

Francis fits the description perfectly

 

*Gilbert Arenas sighs in relief (Better to be TOO hurt than halfway hurt!)*

You can say Magic Johnson was selfish. Pat Riley with the Lakers actually believed in some principles of the motion offense but didnt try to implement them cuz he said he has a guy that liked having the ball in his hands. Could you imagine Magic being an off-the-ball player? Alright far fetched to call it selfishness, but still...

Morey's a good guy but not gonna say the inventor of the box score should be shot. Thats a strong quote just to push across the point, not meant literally but please. Lets see someone try to calculate the selfish stats of soccer

 

It was a hypothetical you damned fool. The point was, since your fairweather fanning of McGrady is currently turned off, I posed the HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION of him returning to find out what it would take for some of you ladies to re-open your hearts to him.

I was NOT saying he's coming back and will do anything. I was saying WHAT IF for the purpose of further illustrating you as a very ignorant fairweather fan. No one cares that your man-crush for McGrady might be over.

You've focused on his jock among other things that frankly I can't really relate with. I don't understand boys like you, I've always played for the other team. Let me know when you become Zman and maybe you can understand some of this crap. At the very least, until then, please stop putting words into my posts. Your pms is clearly getting the best of you.

 

That's correct. There are other guys who are on the team who also have not gotten "it done". Why aren't you flamers bashing them? Want some discussion points?

1) How many decades will it take our passive center to become aggressive?

2) When will our point guards stop jacking up shots before anyone (especially our lag-behind passive center) is in position for rebounds?

3) When will our coach (current and past) learn to manage the dynamic flow of a game and STOP looking at his preset list of substitutions?

4) Why does our 2nd string (current) get more crap done than our starting lineup?

5) McGrady is out, and perhaps over with, why are the rest of his teammates getting a free ride from all this fairweather bashing? The Rockets are/were not a 1 player lineup.

6) Why is this team still lacking a killer instinct? How many more huge leads need to vanish before someone learns this may not be a lineup to win big ones?

Turn off your lover scorned about McGrady and apply the same level of accountability in all these other areas. You'll appear less like someone needing a man-tampon and more like a "somewhat knowledgeable" fan (although judging by most of what you've said in here that's highly unlikely).

Get over the man-crush on McGrady. You people are blind if you think McGrady is/was/will be the only problems facing this team.

 

As long as you keep passing it to yourself, I see nothing wrong with this method.

 

LOL. Yet another contradiction.

Last I checked, almost everyone and everything that you mentioned gets heat on this board for the things on your list and there is thread for each. This was a thread about a "selfish" player and McGrady's name came up. Now if you want to divert the blame from McGrady (not surprisingly) and discuss the other shortcomings on the team then you can find of plenty of appropriate threads to do that.

Also, last I checked none of the other players/problems on your list is making $20 million dollar while taking seasons off. Frankly I am not shocked that you think McGrady's annual drama coming from someone who should be a team leader is on the same level as our backup PGs not doing their job appropriately.

Hey, at least they are showing up on the job, and when they are, they are not half-assing it.

 

Obviously McGrady is done as a star in this league. His performance this season has been putrid and his flaws have been exposed, mainly due to injury.

However, he's got enough flaws (slacks off on D, squanders break opportunities by walking the ball up, doesn't hustle 100% of the time, rarely moves/cuts well without the ball, likes to jack up heat checks, falls in love with his jumper, low tolerance for pain, overly demonstrative when he's hurt, etc.), so why make up new ones and try to rewrite history? Except for this year, the entire time he's been here he has been without question the team's best decision maker and passer. He was the best player on our team at getting Yao the ball. In crunch time situations, he has been criticized for looking to find open teammates instead of taking shots himself. Nobody remembers these things? Or do people "choose" not to remember? lol. Van Grumpy has repeatedly stated publicly that he is (was) the best decision maker/passer with the ball in the NBA after Steve Nash, and that is AFTER JVG left to do ESPN games. Now, that was definitely not the case this year, and likely won't be the case ever again since McGrady is in all likelihood washed up, but why spit on the man's grave and start making stuff up? I know people are pissed at him for this year, justifiably so. But making up stuff? He's probably selfish as a person, selfish as in a glory seeker, but as a passer, as a decision maker with the ball in his hands, he is (was) far from selfish (back when he was healthy, of course). C'mon, you're better than that, clutchfans.

 

The only Rockets "doing their job appropriately" are Luis Scola and Clutch. Period. I'll give an honorable mention to Carl Landry.

I see, so then your concern is a monetary one? As a fairweather fan, why is this your concern? It isn't your money any more than any of these players are "your team".