I saw that too. I'm shocked that a thread didn't appear 30 seconds later. Good to see Jermaine re-signed with the pacers (what a shock ). Now we can finally have a Jermaine-free-GARM!
Unless we trade Mobley for Odom or a starting caliber point guard, this is a bad development. Daniels does not provide the consistent heady play that we need next to Francis. I suspect Mobley for Snow may be in play.
Mobley for Jason Williams. Works for me. Williams would raise the excitement level and improve the flow of a team that desperately needed direction on offense. PG Williams SG Francis SF Posey PF C Yao Bench: Cato, Taylor, Griffin, (Piatkowski or Barry), Nachbar, Hawkins University (Casting Called) Blue
Jason Williams? Pff, the last thing we need is that idiot telling Yao Ming and the new asian fan base "Do you remember the Vietnam War? I'll kill y'all just like that,"(alleged quote).
Ok, this all sounds like a re-run of the whole coaching search.. (deja-vu all over again) Why? Remember, the whole first part of the coach search was all about JVG. Then other names started popping around, but it turned out that JVG was the man all along. People have been talking about Charlie Ward as a viable candidate pickup since the beginning.. then all these other names pop up.. I bet it will turn out that Ward was the target all along. We'll surely know more after the 16th.
Man, you can always count on UB to defend his boy J-Dub, even if he doesn't post all that often. Just another of the little quirks that make up why I love this bbs.
I put alleged because it's not like there was any media there to take it down, it was what the guy on the recieving end said in his letter. Not to mention Williams talked about it as if it did happen. Here's another nugget.
Ollie at $2.5 million is peanuts. Moochie's contract is not peanuts. His defense alone is worth $2.5 million. J-Will is one of the last PGs I'd want on this team. All flash, little substance.
I agree with munco, Ollie could really help the rox and that deal is very small compared to most NBA players. Ollie can PASS to the open man and play DEFENSE. (caps to emphasize last seasons backcourt deficiencies)
Backup point guards of Ollie's caliber are overpaid at $2.5m a season. Players of his caliber are worthy of the $1.5m exception, but not more. Let the other team that ends up with him worry about his oversized contract in three or so seasons.
2.5 mill is small enough that no one will "worry" about it 3 years from now. Ollie is worth more than the 1.5 he is a much better option than any other non-marquee guy out there. He is an actual point guard not just a guy who is small and thus can only play PG. Ollie actually can pass and makes the right play. He also isn't obssessed with jacking up shots, he only shoots when he has a good shot. He also can play good D. He would be a perfect contrast to all of the rockets no pass, no D, dribble all the time fling up 30 foot shots guards. Perhaps they could learn something from him when they are sitting on the bench at the end of games as Ollie and Yao take over in the clutch.
I agree completely. We could sign Damon Jones, Tierre Brown, hell, even an undrafted fa and get the same production out of him as we would Ollie and not have him eating up capspace.
If he is that good, then why does he continually pass from team to team? I've seen him twice with Orlando (in person, in this case), I believe twice with Philly, and once with the Bulls, Sonics, Pacers, Bucks, Nets, Mavericks, and Kings...he's a journeyman point guard. Nothing more, nothing less. About the only thing he does well is not turn the ball over all that much. His rise in stats comes solely as the result of a rise in playing time due to the lack of other options on whatever team he's been on and thus is insignificant. He has likely improved since he came into the league, yes. But, that doesn't say much. He's small, is not a great defender, and (and here comes to mob...) not better than Moochie Norris. In fact, I think the infatuation with Ollie here is that he's not Moochie Norris, i.e. he's just someone different. Not better, just different. And my point? He's not better. And as we've come to find out, salaries from $2m-$4m are not insignificant. Look at Anthony Carter's fiasco in Miami. Ollie's not worth a four year contract, and not worth $10m over the life of the deal. He's worth a 1-2yr deal for about $3m-$3.5m and that's it; any team that offers him the 4yr deal is going to regret it.
I doubt that you have seen Ollie play in the last two years if you are criticizing him. He almost led the Pacers over the Nets in the first round in 02 and only left because Indiana is obssessed with the luxury tax. Milwaukee loved him but had to give him up because sonics had no point guards. He proved his worth in Seattle last Year when Seattle had a winning record after the trade even though he was the only PG. McMillan, Karl, and Thomas all loved him and they were all PGs in the NBA. A. Carter's contract was so onerous because it was 4.2 mill and he couldn't even be the third string PG on a team with no good PGs. Once again, you can't compare guys just because they are similar sizes. Ollie can play, Carter can't. Any comparison is worthless.
