Could Motiejunas and Jones both move out of the rotation?

Your idea of "good" basketball probably differs from most. I guess we'll see what happens and how you twist your arguments to diminish any success TJ and D-Mo have next.

 

Its a given Asik nor Dwight will or can be an outside threat. But the possibility remains that we may go into the playoffs without a single 5 or 4 that can hit an outside shot (perceived as such for floor spreading purposes).

I am trying to digest the implications of going against teams, some of which, get perimeter prowess BOTH at the 4 and 5.

 

This thread has never been about that. It was clear when Cxbby started it and you agreed with that even after the season started. Les' you forget your own words...

You are not talking championship team. You are talking about minutes on the current Rockets team and you are wrong. Whether you want to admit it or not that point is dead wrong. DMo and TJones are both here and both in the rotation and on most nights eating up all the PF's minutes. So now you are trying to weasle into a new position because not to means you have to acknowledge your error but it's wrong too.

Teams have won championships with weaker players in the starting 5. I would argue Chalmers is not anything special. We may not win it all this year but Lin and even Hamilton playing poorly off the bench is a bigger question mark and possible contributor to our lack of success this post season than the PF's. That's debatable but it's more of an argument than anything you have presented.

 

Nope - I think Brooks is a fine player in situations, but Lowry is a better overall player.

You sir, are just flat out 100% wrong, your new name shall be.

Basketballwrongaholic !

It is written !

DD

 

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Finally got him on record. What....4 years later???!?!!!?!?!!

Oh the Lowry/Brooks debate was legendary.

I will remind you I was on the right side of that discussion from the get-go. All the same I enjoyed the day-today jousting match of text we had over it.

Long live Dada!

 

I've been talking championship team from the start as has CXbibby. You're twisting and trying to make something where there is nothing. You are also assuming we aren't a championship team so it don't make any difference. You're thought process is we ain't gonna win one anyways so we might as well play them major minutes and "develop" them. That is exactly the opposite of what CXbibby posted.

Read all my comments on the thread together. This has been an on-going thread that several of us decided early in the season to keep alive to measure the progress of Jones/Dmo and measure our opinions, whether they changed or not. For the record, I haven't changed my opinion. I don't believe Jones nor DMo are rotation players on a championship team. My posts about them moving out of the rotation have been about the necessity of them moving out if we are going to win a championship this season. I have not changed on any of that.

However...just for your pleasure and amusement you can have this. I said they were the 9th and 10th men on a championship team. Obviously I was waaaaaay off on that one. Perhaps they can be the 8th and 9 men on a championship team. Perhaps. But I doubt it. I'll keep you abreast of my opinion on their games.

 

The implication is Harden/Parsons are gonna see time at the 4 if we are going to have a 4 that can hit an outside shot.

 

I was on record years ago about this, you just weren't paying attention.

DD

 

Unless you prove it, it didn't happen. Your first post indicating you had changed your mind was a little subtle list post you made around June or July of last year. You listed 4 point guards. I think it was Goran, Kyle, Lin, and Brooks. And I think that was the order you had them in. I thought about gigging you then about it but it just wasn't worth it at the time.

 

I am not interested in your bickering - go ahead and feel what you like.

You are 100% incorrect on TJo and Dmo - they are good enough to start at PF on a championship team - sort of like Horry was back in the day.

DD

 

LOL....oh Horry now! Next we'll be comparing them to Larry Bird. Dude, DMo can't even stay in the rotation from the bench much less start.

 

Ok, you will be able to watch them both tonight - on the floor.

And here is the kicker, no one cares that you think they are not good enough - no one, not anyone at the Rockets not anyone here, no one.



DD

 

Funny.

If I'm right....they'll be caring a whole lot come June.

 

Brilliant strategy, you've set yourself up to take credit for being "right" if the Rockets don't win the NBA Championship in their first year together as a team.....something that is very unlikely.

 

56 Games

18.2 PER

Just turned 22 years old

 

This post is about the Rockets not some random championship team. He was in love with Casspi if you remember and thought he could be the starting 4. He certainly had Casspi over anyone else not named Asik and as you can see in this OP he thinks Garcia and Brewer are better than TJones and DMo.

This is one of those "boy you couldn't be more ****ing wrong, threads". I give you credit basketholic for arguing it. You would have made a good defense lawyer for O.J.. But you can't take both sides, say we are a championship team and then say DMo and TJones are at best 8th and 9th men on a championship team. They are on this team and TJones is starting and DMo is in the regular rotation. That's a fact and you say we are a championship team so your argument is done.

 

There you have it. It is impossible to make any point or win this argument with him unless the Rockets win the championship. If they are elimintated and Jones and D. Mo play any signifcant minutes, he can point to that as the downfall. It doesn't matter if it is in game 7 of the NBA Finals in triple overtime. He is set up perfectly for an "I told you so" moment. Then lets say they defy the odds and do win a ring, at which point in time he may still point to other factors that were more key to the team's success such as playing small ball or the twin towers lineup if they go to either or both at any point during the championship run. His position is infallable. The perfect argument. In his mind, there is no way he can lose. He is playing three demensional chess and we are all playing checkers.

 

Don't forget he also was hyping up Robert Covington over Jones and D. Mo as well.

 

Horry the player that the Rockets tried like hell to trade for an over the hill Sean Elliott...

Horry is one of my favorite Rockets of all time, and is a legend here in Houston because of how he played during the playoffs in his time in Houston, but lets get the facts straight...

Just as Houston would probably love to upgrade from Terrence Jones to Kevin Love, they also would have loved to upgrade from Horry to Elliott, or Horry to Barkley(which they did eventually to mixed results).

However that's not the way the NBA world works. NBA championship contending teams win championships and get great performances with imperfect rosters every damn year.

The fact is Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas ARE in the rotation and are very likely to be in the rotation moving forward in the playoffs. That is the team the Rockets are rolling with, and BasketCaseAhhollic is just gonna have to sit and sulk in his own little corner of the GARM and deal with it.

I for one... just kinda want to root for them to do well in the playoffs and throughout the stretch of the season because as we all know (looking back at the Horry days as a clear example) sometimes the best roster moves are the ones never made in the first place.

So am I the only one that kinda wants this BS thread to be locked up???... Mods???

 

It is all a bit of a moot point in that the trade deadline has passed, and only players on the roster now can help us in the playoffs.

Unless someone thinks Covington or Casspi can usurp Dmo or Jones in the rotation, we got what we got.