Could Motiejunas and Jones both move out of the rotation?

Here is where I disagree. Howard is the ace on the frontline. Teams will have to offset him. So howard is the ace vs those frontline guys,jones needs to offset the splitter,lopez types. The 3rd big is in rotation with them. If I were coaching the rockets, my big man rotation would be howard,jones,donuts. D12 and jones starts,bring in donuts for jones,then slide donuts over when howard needs. When the rockets won the title,carl harrerra was the other big in rotation. The 3rd big doesn't have to be a world beater,think of the 3rd big for those teams you're thinking about. Who comes in for hibbert or west? Scola and mahhimi. Who comes in for okc? Adams right? What about memphis,gsw,sa,and those other teams? Same. Now if morey can get a quality big,which isn't easy,to back up howard and jones,so be it. Earlier in the year before they started playing pretty good,I suggested channing frye. Right now,the rockets are down to getting brendon haywood,kris kaman types.

 

Yeah I know lol ! didn't want to say a POOR MANS A.Davis because he deserves more credit, but Davis wasn't all that his rookie year, his hype came this year. And this is kinda still like jones rookie year he didn't play as much last year, he is still developing.

 

Boss man I have a lot of respect for you, but Miami has won two championships without 3 noteworthy big men. Bosh is there solid big man, (SF) James and (SG) Wade are two way players.
We are not a championship team yet mainly because we don't play lock down defense and we don't have a deep bench.

 

If only Morey could combine Jones and Patterson...

 

That's where you are wrong. Chris Bosh and Lebron James are all-world big men. They are 2 superstar bigs. Lebron is bigger, stronger, more powerful, faster, and more athletic than any 4 in the league. And Bosh is a superstar 4/5 in his own right. And then they have an Omer-lite (Anderson) playing with them. Not only that they've got a 4th legit 4/5 who is championship quality in Haslem.

Miami has the best big man rotation in the game.

 

Morey may end up upgrading the pf position or pg. they are the 2 logical positions. Unless of course you could lebron or Durant on the rockets.

But sir I honestly think there is a decent chance you may be wrong about jones. He is looking very capable of developing into a top 15 (average) pf in the league.

So if you had say

Pg Wall or Kyrie Irving
SG harden
Sf parsons
Pf Jones
C Howard

Bench Lin, and a few other decent players.

That could net you a title or two in my opinion.

 

Miami's strength comes from their ability to force other teams to downsize and small ball to match up to them, the only two who don't, Indiana and Memphis give them fits. They instead force Miami to push Lebron back to the 3, lest he gets pounded on every play, because he's not really a 4. Faster and more athletic sure, but bigger and stronger? ermm no

 

1/2 the games Jones plays better than Howard who can only make gimmes & cheap baskets (& whatever Howard gets he gives it up on the other end since Howard is more than willing to "trade baskets" for 48 minutes every game; he also likes to pad his stats against the worst centers in the league) while Jones makes all kinds of spectacular shots (I would not call alley-oops by Howard spectacular shots) & Jones has a variety of shots which NO WAY does Howard have in his repertoire.

in 6 games in January:

Jones is averaging 11.2 rebounds 2.0 blocks (12 blocks in the last 3 games)
Howard is averaging 10.0 rebounds 1.7 blocks

Maybe somebody could start a thread titled: "Could Garcia and Casspi both move out of the rotation?" so this one will disappear. Casspi plays good on occasion, but I think what he provides is somewhat redundant considering the other players. I would like to see D-Mo take his place because he provides another element.

 

LMFBO, yea Bosh really played like a all world superstar in last years playoffs LOL

 

LOL, Miami's strength comes from being the better team with the same 5 then any team running small ball or big ball. What you are apparently not seeing here is how effective Miami is at playing big. Watch the games and observe how much bigger and stronger Lebron is than almost every opponent's power forward. Watch how much longer and more athletic Bosh is against 90% of the 5's in this league.

Miami can play Bosh at the 5, Lebron at the 4, Shane or Rashard at the 3, Wade at the 2, and Chalmers at the 1 and be better than the our small-ball lineup and better than our big boy lineup. Just look at them against us. Dwight vs. Bosh...that's a stalemate. Bosh is taller, longer...Dwight is stronger. Now go to the 4. Jones vs. James...no contest James is so much bigger and stronger than Jones it's not worth talking about.

Once again, Miami has the best big rotation in the NBA.

 

It makes no sense to use Miami in any sort of comparison. They essentially had three of the top 15 players last year and still barely won it all. Not saying that as a negative or a positive. Just you won't be able to compare another team to them because there is no one like Lebron. They win not because of a big man rotation or any other reason, just simply because they have talent on top of the most talented player

 

You have gone totally astray from the topic which says they are out of the rotation. Terrence and Donatas are both in the rotation. One's situation better than the other's.

Maybe you should start another thread. You are talking about championship winners and contenders.

Cxbby has gone missing ever since he started this thread.

 

Conflicting interests are fun.

You know damn well a certain poster here is waiting for T-Jones to have another Indiana type game just so he can try to justify his dubious argument.

It's like owning Peyton Manning in a fantasy football league whenever he's playing your favorite team.

 

6ft 7.5 in lebron is considered a big man since when? I guess shane battier is to cause he is the starting PF when he returns

 

If miami big man rotation is the best in the nba,why did they sign a guy who has played in 2 yrs? Why are they moving guys to possibly make room for bynum? The only thing that makes miami big thing work is one of the greatest to ever play,lebron. If lebron was a guy big enough and strong enough to guard pfs,it wouldn't work. He's the most unique player. Probably in the history of nba.

 

This.

 

6 fouls. That is all. 6 fouls. They're gearing up to win A 3rd RING IN A ROW! And they're signing another big so they can throw ANOTHER big body at Hibbert.


Now you tell me....how can we match up to that???? You're making the case for me, leebigez. We've got to get 3 primary bigs...not to mention another couple giants available to cover for injuries and foul trouble.

 

When you have legit size and skill, you don't have 6 fouls on the bench type of guys,you have players. You don't see indy or sa or okc or houston signing guys off the street because the guy has 6 fouls. Fact is, hibbert isn't even that good,but when he plays Miami,a smallish team,he looks like a all time great. When the mia play indy, they struggle with not only hibbert,but west. Lebron can guard west,but he has to guard George. So now you can't really put battier nor lewis at the 4 because of west. So they want to keep Lebron on George,Bosh on west, and they're gonna try to get 40 mins of defense/shot blocking out of oden and maybe bynum.

 

Blow this thread up with the Marcus Morris becoming a star.

 

leebigez,

Is Dwight/TJones/DMo good enough to stay with James/Bosh/Anderson????