I would agree, although, who would you have in mind that could actually match our offer of Scola + McGrady? And be an actual star?
So many turrible trade suggestions in here. Pryz + Fernandez for Scola? I would rather keep Scola... I would only trade Scola for an up and coming young player. Here's two scenarios where I would trade Scola: Scenario 1 Scola + Battier for Courtney Lee + Yi Jianlian We might lose on some defense at first but these two young players have TONS of offensive upside. Also, saying Yi-Yao or Yao-Yi or The Chinese Twin Towers would be fun. Lineup: PG: Lowry/Brooks SG: Lee/Budinger/(T-mac?) SF: Ariza/Budinger PF: Landry/Yi C: Yao/Andersen/Hayes We end up with a very formidable frontcourt with athletic and fast PFs and tall and skilled Cs, contrasted with our small, quick and agile guards and all-around SFs. It's a very nice lineup with a mixture of height, quickness, athleticism. Scenario 2 Scola + Battier for Gortat + fillers (+ draft pick?) We get a very reliable backup to Yao, one that could even be the starter if we want to preserve Yao. Magic get a premiere defender for Lebron (shh..don't tell them Shane's regressing fast this season) and a more traditional type PF (as opposed to Rashard Lewis) they can throw in to mix things up a bit, as well as play backup C to Dwight Howard. Lineup: PG: Lowry/Brooks SG: T-mac/Budinger SF: Ariza/Budinger PF: Landry/Hayes C: Yao/Gortat/Andersen This lineup requires that we keep T-mac ..it'll be very talented but a bit thin at the wings and PF. But, we'll have more than enough depth at C and maybe Andersen can slide to the 4 /be trade bait.
Sometimes many posters are really appalling. If pooches could be traded they would trade them in a heartbeat. While many here are for trading just about anyone and anything, I have nice long bridge in San Francisco that I could trade you guys for anything you want to trade. This is sickening.
One example that would work salary wise would be Bosh, Banks, Evans works. Banks and Evans both get little to no playing time and have contracts that extend beyond this year so they are nothing but trade fodder to make the real pieces work.
Yeah I don't like trades just for the sake of a trade. IMO the only way I think Scola gets traded is for a real game changer.
We do not have a true franchise player. Someone that can take over at the end of the game. Someone to dominate when defenses turn up the heat several notches and in the closing minutes of games.
Scenario 1 is ok the Scenario 2 is not. Morey wont trade his two starters for a bench player who has been considered overpaid. Since Gortat is a negative value for the Magic I'd try Cook+Battier for him.
could a thread be more random? i mean replace scola's name with any other rocket's and we can all write a thesis.
Excellent thread. Scola is like one of those players who are good for a championship caliber team. But when it comes to up and coming young teams like us, he still gets his numbers, but he's not taking or leading this team anywhere. Same with Battier. You could make the argument that we are going to be championship contenders when Yao returns in 2011. But... Scola at this point is definitely tradeable. So is Battier.
only a very few in the league are untouchable. how about we talk about all the trading scenarios involving hayes, landry, battier, brooks, etc.? well, maybe that's still better than wasting time talking about you know who.
I disagree. Scola is an outstanding player but how many times when the game is on the line has he just put the Rockets on his back and just taken over the game to secure the victory. How many times have we seen Scola out duel another superstar during the last 7 or 8 minutes of the 4th quarter? We have not. I'm a big Scola fan but he is not a franchise player. Wade, James, Bryant etc.. are franchise players and Scola has never even been an all-star.
I like that example but would Raptors fans or more importantly their GM go for something like that? Unless they've lost all hope of resigning Bosh or its came straight out of his mouth this year I doubt he'll be traded. I honestly don't see us getting anything like that for Tracy's contract and a filler, even a filler as good as Scola. It's more like wishful thinking now, kind of like trying to trade him for CP3. Just seems like we're reaching just a tad on those, eh.
I would say feel free to mention them because IMO none of them are untouchable. If NOH offered up Chris Paul the Rockets would part with any one or two players on the team not named Yao.
I agree but when you are talking game changers you are talking about players like Bosh or CP3. Players that may have a remote chance of moving for one reason or another. I think Bosh is a prime example of a player that could be traded at the deadline. If the Raptors do not turn things around they could get very paranoid that Bosh could just walk leaving them with nothing at the end of the season. Trading for Scola and McGrady gets them back a borderline all star (a double double machine that plays defense) and clears lots of cap space for the summer. Just an example. A lot can happen between now and the trade deadline but I don't think Morey would include Scola in a trade unless we got something significant back.
He doesn't have to be a franchise player for us not to trade him, especially when we aren't getting one in return or someone who is not as productive. He's an essential piece to the team, as it stands right now. Also, he is a great compliment to Yao or a good backup in certain cases.
I agree, but I have mentioned in the opening post and many times since that I don't think Scola should be included in a trade unless we get something significant back... a game changer and a true closer. I think Morey is a very shrewd GM and will not trade him for a journeyman player at any position. I do not think Morey will make a trade of any player just for the sake of making a trade.
Senario #1 was brought up to Jonathan Feigen and he thought it was far fetched that the Rockets would trade Scola/Battier for Yi/Lee but I think it's very possible. Remember Rafer last year! It's very simular, Landry is coming on and Scola and Landry is a luxury at the power forward position.
