Could any 18-year-old center that ever lived have fixed last year's defense?

Alperen Sengun. Always!

 

Green/Ivey backcourt would be a problem

 

Idk y people want ivey when we already have kpj.

What do u do with him?

 

It's pretty rare defense is solved in one draft, especially since the Rockets are last.

 

Sengun does some very stupid stuff as well, like continuing to reach on defense and trying insane passes sometimes, so I don't know why his mental approach is not called into question or that you think his mental approach is better than Iveys.

 

Most of those guys are C's and one of the other 2 plays C a large majority of the time, so are we projecting Holmgren to C a lot of the time?

This is the disconnect that does not make logical sense when projecting Holmgren.

 

No, the disconnect is refusing to accept or comprehend that Chet was so productive and efficient at the 4 spot no matter how much data is provided.

Not at the 5.

And that shot blocking includes more than just post defense.

Or that Chet is remarkably efficient post defender considering his lack of size due to his uncanny ability recover when knocked off his spot with his extraordinary length AND IQ.

And Chet is highly effective weakside blocker, help defender and in close outs on perimeter.

Chet alters shots all over the court, not just in paint.

But go ahead, ask another question that has been asked and answered multiple times.

 

KPJ still has some question marks. So I wouldn't bank our future on him.

But Ivey isn't a sure thing either.

 

Sengun's mental approach is much better than Ivey on defense, even offense.

Its not even close.

Ivey is a supreme athlete but Sengun is the more advanced basketball player.

 

I agree. My observation with Sengun so far is that he has a high basketball IQ and his passing skills are not being maximized in the Rockets system where the two guards are spending a lot of time dribbling in half-court sets. I think Sengun's real value is in a system where ball movement is paramount coupled with off-the-ball movement by the players. The teams where I think Sengun will thrive are the Warriors, Heat, Celtics, and Spurs. The Rockets' system is similar to the rest of the other teams who are not playing in the NBA's version of the final four.

 

Sengun, like Paolo to certain extent, is maximized on a team with a lot of cutters, creative off ball movement and off ball screens.

 

So now you claim to know what Ivey's and Senguns mental makeup is and that Senguns approach is better?

So in your mind continuing to reach and get out of place on defense and all the unforced turnovers show a much more advanced basketball player?

makes total sense.

 

Sengun would have looked pretty good in that complex Iowa scheme which features a lot of post touches and complex player movement. But Ivey handled that system a lot better than some give him credit for.

I think Ivey will come to the NBA and find the offensive systems to be overly simplified. I think we all bemoan the lack of creativity in the Rocket's offensive sets, for example. They couldn't be more basic.

Defensively, Ivey has a lot to learn like all young players do. But again, I think he's given a pretty bad rap as a defender. He gambles too much but that's in large part because he's been playing against subpar athletes that he can manipulate because of his athleticism.

As others have noted, some of Sengun's defensive woes are quite similar to Ivey's. However, we should add that some of Sengun's "lapses" are actually moments when he thought his teammates would be giving help only to be left hanging out to dry. Frequently, Sengun's teammates had no sense of coordinated effort thinking only about "hey, I'm on MY man. That guy is your responsibility."

 

You've proven you have no clue.

Sengun was more offensively AND defensively productive and efficient than Ivey going into draft.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=jaden-ivey--alperen-sengun

Sengun is a high basketball IQ player, on offense and defense.

Ivey is still figuring things out on both ends, especially defense.

Ivey is a freak athlete, Sengun is more polished player.

You just challenge shet without doing your due diligence.

You're tiresome AF.

 

I'm actually a big fan of Ivey and would have no problem if he was Rocket.

But while his athleticism and speed is off the charts, he is not without flaws.

 

That poster doesn't even realize that Ivey is even more foul prone and turnover prone than Sengun.

So his description of Sengun's reaching and being out of position defensively is not only pompously ignorant but quite ironic.

 

Sengun's defense is terrible on nba2k as well. Your point?

 

I agree totally, I think he was mainly just young and too excitable but it took a long time to curtail those tendencies for him to be some defensive savant.

Learning not to reach is basketball 101.

And once Sengun is probably my favorite rocket right now but he can be very frustrating because he does a lot of dumb stuff along with the higher level stuff.