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Costa Concordia sinking

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by IBTL, Jan 14, 2012.

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  1. cardpire

    cardpire Member

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    (by the way, your response is ad hominem, since we're throwing around legal terms!)
     
  2. heypartner

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    I think Al Qaeda did it.
     
  3. ashiin

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    It was intended yes :)
     
  4. cardpire

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    hey, i have nothing substantial to contribute to the thread, but i'm bored and see 2 other guys attempting to pile on somebody and i want to feel like a part of a group! let me join in! :rolleyes:
     
  5. ashiin

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    Yeah I could, and I posted articles about it. The CNN article I posted has somebody who has been a coast guard admiral list out point by point how the captain failed. The audio recording also showed how the captain stalled and basically refused to go back up and do his duty. Please explain to me how a company who hired an employee who on paper has passed everything necessary to do his job could have seen any of his failures coming.
     
  6. Castor27

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    Wow this thread took a hit and is sinking fast
     
  7. Yonkers

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    According to cardpire, it would be Clutch's fault.
     
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  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, you're a mod (i.e. captain) so you have to go down with the ship.
     
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  9. cardpire

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    once again, when did i say that the captain successfully did his job? he (let's assume this part was solely his fault) wrecked the ship, then him and tons of his staff scrambled like ants after their hill got kicked. he was one of the many who failed to do his job properly. not the only one, just the most high-profile one whose name is being quickly and gleefully dragged through the mud by his company, who has successfully caused people to believe that every ensuing aspect of this tragedy was caused by this one bad seed, as you and many posters are proving.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Are they going to salvage the ship? It is strange how the hole is on one side and the list on the other, it seems they could patch it where it sits and then pump it dry, no?

    DD
     
  11. Yonkers

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    Every article brings up other aspects of what went wrong but the reason why people focus on the captain is that the overwhelming majority of the fault lies with him.
     
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    <object width="640" height="360"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/reGhBBcwBu0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/reGhBBcwBu0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="360"></embed></object>

    Salvage potential.

    DD
     
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    Second, the chaos that followed the grounding of the ship appears to reflect the captain's lack of leadership aboard his vessel. By all accounts he failed to institute a command structure in which his crew was prepared to do their duty to organize the passengers for a safe embarkation from a sinking platform -- and as a result, 11 people are dead and more than 20 others are still missing.[/quote]

    That is from the CNN article and it explains just exactly why it's his fault. With him bailing his crew and not issuing orders and commands to lead his crew to save lives, which is his duty by the way, the captain deserves the most blame than the crew who bailed. If you read the article you would read that an off-duty captain actually stepped into his role and started commanding the crew. I bet you without that off-duty captain the situation would have been much worse.

    Not to mention, you seem to forget that the captain made the call to go that close to shore and veer off a more safe route in the first place. It is most definitely his fault this whole thing happened.
     
  14. ashiin

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    ffff spoiler tag fail.
     
  15. heypartner

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    They are still searching for missing people...and bad weather is coming.

    As for the listing, I heard the captain turned the ship around (counterclockwise) and aimed for closer ground after hitting the rock. Not sure if that had anything to do with the listing, but it definitely seems it did a 180 versus the maps showing the original course.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Now I think I know why this picture was posting on the first page...premonition of a very odd deduction would be coming later in the thread.
     
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    I guess his point is that other people messed up to, and that's true. But ultimately it's the captains fault because his job is to keep everyone on board safe. It is soley his, and his alone, responsibility. He failed. It's his fault what happened happened.

    Now, there are/were seemingly mistakes made after the captain screwed up and that's fine. I'm sure there are some areas for concern as it pertains to evacuation readiness and training and that shouldn't be ignored.

    But again, it's still ultimately the captains fault.

    i think that's his point. I could only interpret that via my dunce decoder ring.
     
  18. Yonkers

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    lol... you said what I said back to me :)
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    yeah...but i said it better :grin:
     
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    Did the band continued to play on??
     

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