This is just amazing. I've seen it happen several times in the 16 games i've been to this season (regular season), but i would never think it would happen during the playoffs. I've been told to "sit down" before because I usually jump up on a good defensive posession. Just because you don't find it exciting means I don't have the right to celebrate? Even if they were standing the whole game, there is no rule saying you can not do this. There are big screens clearly in view unless yao is standing in front of you with moochie on his shoulders. These complaining and lazy fans is why Houston has the worst home court out of the top teams. Here are 2 things you can do if a good fan so happens to be blocking your social hour at toyota center. 1) Stand up as well. I know this might seem outrageous to do for some of you. I know for the formula to be true there has to be someone else on your row standing up as well, but I also realise this can be a hassle for the disabled or elderly. So that brings you to the next option. 2) Look at the "clearest screen in the nation" that's smack in front of you no matter where you sit in the TC. Now I know the first thing complainers will think is "I paid all this money to watch the game live". Well from a die-hard perspective if you really cared about the game you would find a way to view it rather than calling security on some other fans. I'm sure it took more effort to call security and complain than it would take to stand up or move your head to view the game that you don't care too much about obviously or you'd be standing too. Do people call security on people who need to use the restroom? You have to stand up to let people walk by in the crowded seating rows anyway. This just upsets me and i'm sure a lot of other die-hards who truely want this team to go places and make the whole city proud. I can't wait for someone to call security on me. Die hard fan fall in faint.
Others' smoking, even if it did not affect my health, is an annoyance. It stinks up my clothes when I go out and pay (in some form, be it restaurant/bar) to have a good time. Tall people standing in front of my seat, blocking my view whether I sit or stand, in addition to causing me mental anguish over the inadequacy of my average height, is also an annoyance, preventing me from going out to the Rox game and having a good time. As for the logic, you're absolutely correct. Grown men, a child's game, misguided hero worship, mass identification, underfunded schools and hundreds of millions of dollars in public-financed stadiums. You got me there. It amazes me constantly what we as a nation, and I as an individual, consume under the guise of popular entertainment. Arbitrary as it may be, however, it's still a form of entertainment, a form of entertainment that all paying patrons are equally entitled to. You seemed more upset that the elderly patrons called security on those who refused to sit when asked (politely???) in the first place, and not that the security was rude. If they Kinged the guys with their rent-a-batons, then I'm with you, too far. But if you're upset with the elderly ticketholders for just wanting to enjoy the game (and by enjoying, I mean seeing), I don't understand. Going and enjoying the game? Forgetting about my personal troubles for a few jumpers at a time? And allowing others who want to go and enjoy the game, and forget about their personal troubles for a few jumpers at a time, whether in front of me or behind me, to be able to do the same thing? My general suckitude notwithstanding, your viewpoint is equally as valid as that of a fan who wishes to sit during the game. Your ability to witness/enjoy the game is not affected when the person in front of you sits. When the guy in front of you stands, and you (a) don't wish to stand, or (b)stand and find he is taller and/or opaque in nature, you find yourself SOL. Since we seem to agree that standing/sitting has little or (my contention) no impact on the outcome of the game itself, it seems to me that, as Rocketman rightly puts it, "common courtesy" dictates that you respect the wishes of those behind you. A suggestion. As with all other matters in life, when I find myself in a dilemma where both sides seem right, I turn to celebrities for some form of guidance. A movie star or two have been known to buy up all the tickets in a theater, that they may enjoy the experience of going out to the movies without being encumbered by the public's demands on their impossible hotness. I suggest that the minority of fans who wish to stand in public arenas should purchase the seats behind them in an ever widening V, based on their heights.
u know what, the exact same thing happened to ROckets03 (isnt that surprising ).......and guess what, he complained to the Rockets marketing dept and got 4 floor seats for the Timberwolves game......floor seats
Staying at home is a bad solution. I mean the Rockets have bad enough attendance as is, they should probaly try to satisfy the customers they do have. Good business I say.
Rolling Stones tried this once. Didn't end well. Hmmm... Did the rude security guard involved look anything like a Hells Angel?
if i put the $ for a playoff ticket i would stand all game, f*** the other old bums and the police. as much as they charge for beer you should be able to at least stand and cheer for your team.
Yes, indeed, f*** the other bums, and the coppers, too. Personally, when I'm binge-drinking overpriced Buds at sports stadiums, I don't like having to miss a free throw or two to go wander around and find the nearest bathroom. And I don't like going during half-time, cause they might get out that cool t-shirt gun and, by god, I'm gonna get me that free shirt. So, personally, I just like to drop trou and relieve myself right there, mark me some territory. F*** the poor saps sitting in front of me. What do I care? If they didn't want to be doused, they should have watched the game from the comforts of their precious, urine-free sofa. Right on. I like the way you think.
Like This? I'd have SEASON TICKETS, if the guard DID look like that. Meh, couldn't find anything better than this Hells Angels video.
sounds like the guys were standing the whole time. its one thing if you are jumping out of your seat on sweet plays, but i can sympathize with the old people who got security on them if they were standing the whole game. they cant see at all and you can only ask someone to sit down so many times. maybe they guys who wanted to stand could have traded seats and got behind them? i pretty much jump out of my seat anytime the rockets hit a basket or make a block or steal. im sitting up and standing down more times than a catholic on sunday. (when steve was here i was kneeling just as much as one too). however, ive been yelled at for jumping out of my seat and standing up for a few plays. for like two minutes or so. in 4th quarters of close games! if that was the case here (which it doesnt seem like it was) than i dont think security should have been called.
yeah there wis this mavs fan with blonde or gray hair behing the dallas bench and he/she was real loud and boisterous.. that how it supposed to be.. up to now I'm comfused if it was an older lady or what.. looked like barbara bush from the upper level..
If that were the case, I retract my earlier statements, and concede that even the elderly should find themselves forced to stand at attention throughout the game. 60s logic: Rolling Stones decide, hey, we've been on tour a while, made a lot of money: why not do a free gig? So they throw a free concert, thereby attracting a bunch of multicultural, deadbeat hippies. Not have any money for security (or worse, believe in a love-in you don't need any security). Instead hire the Hell's Angels, a bunch of Iron Cross-wearing, fascism-loving, war protester-assaulting, (and most importantly) hippie-hating biker outlaws. As payment, give the Angels all the beer they can drink. Wait till they get good and liquored up. Don't even get through half your set before they start murdering black people. Wow. Just, wow. So the baby's wearing the diapers, and he and his toddler girlfriend are left out in the middle of Death Valley to fend for themselves amidst biker gangs and the sweltering desert sun? But his diapers are so awesomtastically leak-proof that the stench of days and days of his leavings defeat said marauding Hun bikers with just so much as a whiff. And he and the baby dame walk off into the sunlight to, what, die unsupervised of thirst? Stink up the place even more for a few days first? Somebody please explain this commercial to me. I need to learn a new language.
Rockets security/police is pretty pathetic. I was told by security to "guiet down" at the Compaq Center a few years back. Called Rockets and they send me an autograph poster of someone. whatever. Their excuse was that the Rockets do not really control the security at the Compaq Center. Chuck Watson or someone elsed hired the security and that it would be different when the Rockets controled their own arena. Then the first year of the Toyota Center the same thing happens again. I was standing up and yelling with my friends. Not cussin or anything. Old ****ers behind me call the security. The security at first told us to quiet down and I just ignored them. Told them that they could move me or arrest me if they could tell me what exactly was i doing that is "illegal". They pretty much left me alone after that and moved the old geezers. It has happened to me over and over again. I might be a hothead, but I never curse at the games. I am loud, but thats it..... I am pretty famous for all the chants that start in the arena..."fire gundy (not too proud of that one), "mvp, mvp", "dampier sucks", etc...... DCballer, if you want a true fan to be sitting down close to the Rockets then get me and my friends down there. My personal favorite is when I can once in a while sneak downstairs and situate my self right behind the opposing bench. I can make those guys wish that they should have never come out of their mother's womb. Tomorrow is a day that I look forward to. I can always get my section riled up. But tomorrow I will personally aim for all the sections around us.
I am all about people standing up and having an electric crowd at the home games. But three dudes trying to cheer on the team or 'get people involved' by standing up so the people behind them cant see - when the rest of the arena is sitting down - is worse than selfish and incosiderate, it is lame. Actually sadder to have three guys standing that no guys standing. Back when the Summit was the Summit and the crowds were into it - and tickets cost less than a Camaro - everyone stood up, and it was a shared exprience -- if the people were complaining about the people in front of the standing when the whole arena is juiced and cheering and standing, then yes, you're right. But if we are so pathetic crowd-wise -- and we are -- that we defend the inconsiderate guys just because they are the only microscopic signs of life in that arena, we are missing the point. The whole arena needs to be into it. If it is not, then those three guys are forcing the handful of people behind them to stand just so they can see. Again, it works when the arena is juiced. when the arena is not, it does not work. Its an intangible thing, and just because you are showing enthusiasm, it does not mean you have carte blanche to disrupt the average fan's experience. Rage Against The Machine indeed.
I think it does affect the game. Anyone who has performed, acted, danced, or been on a public stage knows that the crowd can help. It can inspire you, and you do feed off the energy of the crowd. It may or not make a difference of inspiring a player with a last little bit of energy when he's dead tired. It isn't just atheletes. Others who perform all are affected to varying degrees by the audience. It might mean having just that extra energy boost needed to save a ball, make a critical blocked shot, or defensive stop, etc. It can affect how the players feel. How the players feel can effect how they play to a degree. That doesn't mean that a quiet group of fans is an excuse for not playing well. It doesn't mean that a pro athelete should require that to help, but in some cases it can make a difference. That being said, I don't think the TC crowd was too quiet or anything like that. I liked their chants, and enthusiasm for the most part. I also don't think people should stand the entire game. The entire last 2 minutes sure. If there is an exciting stretch, the definitely. If someone has a problem with standing during those times, their enthusiasm is lacking.
More I think about it...maybe it is obnoxious to stand up and cheer when no one else is and to continue to do so. But I think if those people who do stand are successful in getting other people to stand up, then they should be allowed to continue. Sort of like the wave.... I mean, nothing is like having a full house of fans standing and making noise - it's brutal on the other team. It's not just about making your team play well, it's about distracting the other teams opponents. So I say, stand up as much as you can, try to get people to stand with you, but if it's not happening, then don't stand too long. Sit down and wait for another moment to get up!
I agree with CBrownFanClub. An arena of screaming fans all going nuts together can't be manufactured, certainly not by over abrasive people who are starved for attention. Standing up an cheering together is about creating a monolith that shows collective support for the team.
I've heard players in a variety of sports talk about how much a lively crowd, which includes standing, helps them play. I know when I played sports having a crowd on their feet cheering for you made a difference. True I never played professionally on anywhere near major league level but it did feel good to look in the stands and see people on their feet for you. I think the same applies to pro-sports considering how often you'll see a Defensive player raising their arms to get the crowd up for a critical down in the NFL.
This pisses me off. Another reason why the NBA game atmosphere absolutely sucks compared to college hoops. Could you imagine if some idiot asked one of the Cameron Crazies and Duke to sit down? If you want to sit down and watch, then maybe you should be at the opera. This is why Houston fans are considered the lamest in the country. Fair weather, obese, blue-haired fans who spend more time going back and forth from their seat to the concession stand than actually watching the game.
