Sipping on the koolaid much? The grizzlies took Thabeet knowing full well what Gasol was capable of. They didn't draft Thabeet just to have him drop in value and trade him. Thabeet is exactly the player Morey can't get his hands on: the prototypical positional player who has a high ceiling. You know why? They cost a lot. Especially centers. Why in the hell would Memphis trade Thabeet for Ariza (a great role player on the right team) or Budinger (a promising, athletic player but a dime a dozen at the position)?
Thabeet is still mainly potential. I think Morey can get something better with his pick than Thabeet.
I would LOVE to grab Thabeet and see him work with our staff. I still think he has the potential to be a force inside. I like him much better than anyone we can get at 14 or so...
Grizz drafted Thabeet as a developing project. Centers like him are hard to find these days. They are not gonna get rid of him unless they are fully sure he is a absolute bust with no future. Plus Beet is starting to show sparks in recent games, so no , i dont think we will be cooking with beet
Thabeet was very impressive last time we played Memphis. I don't see them trade him, however, there's a very raw 7 footer in this year's draft with potentials to dominate the defensive end who could land in the range from 11 to 14, Hassan Whiteside.
I don't mind having him as a backup, we still don't know what he is capable off (thanks to the one of the worst teams management in the league "Memphis"), he is pretty good defensive big man, but his offensive.. aah I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see.
Thabeet is very misthought off .. He's athletic .. quick off his feet and could block anyone .. He Just Fell in the wrong lap that's all ..
I like the thought, but word on Thabeet is he doesn't really care for basketball too much. Where was it someone posted a story here saying he's about cashing a paycheck. Still, I would roll the dice if it didn't cost to much
I'm pretty sure this was debunked. Some poster got a text from a friend saying Thabeet was having dinner with Morey, then produced a pic with Morey no where near in sight.
Well, for one I don't think either Grizz - Beet or Gasol - is capable of playing the 4 fulltime (nevermind that the franchise's best rebounder is occupying the 4 already). Both are at their best in the paint, and one of them is bordering on allstar status now. Secondly, the Grizz will have to replace Gay somehow. This doesn't mean that they will necessarily look for a pure scorer, since Mayo and Z-Bo are more than capable of lighting up the FGA column. They may be looking for an elite glue guy (in some sort of astronomical reverse Gay-Battier/Ariza swapping) or for a floor spreading athletic wing on a rookie contract (C-Bud).
The point is to NOT use our pick on a center, since their isn't a Shaq, Zo, Stoudemire type big man coming out (jury is still out on Cousins' motor). If we're swinging for the fences with our pick it'll probably be with a wingman. That, of course still leaves us in a precarious position at center.
imo you should send shane back w/ david anderson & the ny pick bring back the dream the new dream "wow that felt good" i need a tissue wait no a towel god this stuff get's everywhere how do they count this stuff
I see what you're saying but am willing to give Memphis the benefit of the doubt that they're not stupid enough to trade the #2 pick in the draft for the 44th pick. If anything, having a border-line C already means Memphis can take their time developing Thabeet. It just seems like of all routes there are to replace Gay, they would ever have to give up Thabeet to do so. Much more likely options include: -just drafting an athletic wing with their pick -trading the pick for a wing -trading someone else for a wing No knock on Chase or Trevor but athletic wings are a dime a dozen. There pretty much isn't a trade that Memphis could make with Houston where Memphis would get even close to fair value for Thabeet. Shaq and Zo were the top two picks of their draft and few predicted Stoudemire would be as good as he is. The sad truth is that you gotta overpay for size. That's exactly what happened with Thabeet. We'll have the 11th-14th pick in the draft, lets be reasonable here. No badass C will likely be left for us there. That might force us to gamble on a big.
Arguably, but i don't think so. Thabeet was the highest drafted player to ever be moved down to the D-League, but it was an opportunity to get some real minutes until rotting on the bench, not a punishment. Thabeet is sharing minutes with three other 7footers. That lands him a whopping 11.6 for the season. Since Gasol has been injured, Thabeet's minutes have spiked. His last five game avg stats: 22.4mpg 7.2 pts 7.0 rebs 2.6 blcks Young. Raw. Not a bust.
Right there with you Verse.... With the offensive players you have on the outside that's exactly the type of Center you need... Deke part II.
i tend to agree that the griz are smarter than i think but i somehow thought that the knick's would not give up the 8 th & a pick for magrady&some magic bean's they are going regret giving us hill by the time this deal is complete (2yr's)
I actually think that players like Thabeet are outdated and overvalued. There was a time when having a true shotblocking presence did wonders for a defense, but the increased use of drawing the charge and greater fouls called when attempting a block have made the Dalemberts, Thabeets, etc. of this world essentially obsolete. Defensive 3 seconds has really changed the way the game is played, and that is a big part of the reason why you don't see too many true centers out there any more. Mutumbo is a rare exception. This is my own biased opinion, but Mutumbo had three things that set him apart from these wannabes. 1) He had amazing instincts, and could truly avoid contact when attempting a block 2) He had the respect of the league and referees, who allowed him to stay in the lane a bit longer than most 3) He was an amazing rebounder, regardless of age and could hold his ground against the best of them (including Shaq) Thabeet is no Mutumbo. Thabeet got eaten alive by Dejuan Blair, Mutumbo would have thrown it back in his face and made him eat the leather off of the ball. The way I see it, if a center does not contribute much offensively (ala Mutumbo), he needs to own the paint. He needs to grab a large portion of rebounds, and be both a man-man and off ball shotblocking monster to be a valuable player. If he does either of these things at just an average rate (Dalembert), he really does not add much more than a non-traditional center who adds offense and charge taking ability. Thabeet does not exhibit the kind of rebounding that Mutumbo did. Mutumbo averaged around 12 rebs/game right out of the gate. I would argue that rebounding is one of those things that does not improve much over time. Most solid rebounders only increase their averages with increased time, but few really up their rebounding rates. Hasheem to me has been a poor rebounder for his height and athleticism since Georgetown, and I don't see this improving much in the league. I'm going to predict it now, Thabeet is the next Dalembert. Some team is going to lock him up long-term in the hopes that his potential will reach his contract, but he will ultimately become another bad contract who hasn't lived up to expectations.
No. The Knicks gave up the 8th pick in this years draft for a shot at getting a marquee player (i.e. LeTravel, Bosh, Wade) If they succeed...then Jordan Hill won't be missed at all. The trade was about cap space, it was never about the ghost of Tracy McGrady.
