Convice Me that We Should Keep Our #1 Draft Pick...

trade the pick, if possible. A low first-rounder might yield a find (such as Aaron Brooks - or Cuttino Mobley, for that matter), but it probably won't get us anything. One negative about it is, it comes with a guaranteed contract, which makes it less desirable than a high 2nd for a lot of teams.

 

i would trade the pick as part of a deal.

mostly because signing the pick would put the rockets right at the LT with landry to re-sign.

taking an international player to stash oversea's doesn't really work anymore, because they'll stay there and make more money thanks to the weak dollar/stronger euro as DD mentioned.

 

"needs to be a part of a deal" ?

You don't make up your mind when there is nothing substantial on the table. If on draft day, say Mike Miller or some other guy available and the deal breaker is our first round draft pick, then you weigh in. You don't go out like an moron right now telling everybody we are willing to offer the first round draft pick, because that's really not that much.

 

The 25th pick doesn't get any team a Mike Miller.

 

A high 2nd round pick just like #31 where the rockets drafted Carl Landry last year. Instead I wish the rockets would have drafted Landry at #26 and kept him on the guarenteed rookie salary scale for 3yrs. It would have been cheaper.(Hopefully Brooks makes me eat my words). In a deep draft when drafting mid to late 20s can probably yield you the same type of talent in the high to mid teens, it may make sense to hold on to your pick unless you can move up and select a homerun can't miss player that's fallen due to teams drafting for need.

 

i'd like to trade the pick. the grizzlies might be an option. it's probably too hard to get mike miller without giving up too much so i'd look in a different direction. several top prospects don't want to play for the grizzlies so they should try to trade the pick. they are still a team that has to rebuild and they have to dump bad contracts. that's where the rockets come into play.

grizzlies trade:

1. brian cardinal (2 years and about 13 million $ left on his contract)
2. kyle lowry (they have 3 young and talented pgs, one has to go)
3. pick #5


rockets trade:

1. bobby jackson (expiring contract at about 6 million $)
2. carl landry (resigned at 2.5 to 4 mio)
3. pick #25
4. draft rights to lior eliyahu
5. cash


reason the grizzlies do this trade:

the grizzlies dump a bad contract. they can buy out bobby jackson using the provided cash and save about 10 million $ in salary. also, they open up more playing time for mike conley and they can resign navarro. landry fits their fast paced system pretty well. pick #25 and eliyahu are throw ins to sweeten the deal.


reason the rockets do this trade:

obviously losing landry is a tough one but it's also clear the rockets don't have too many options to upgrade their backcourt. we should expect scola to play about 30 minutes next year so there should be only limited minutes at the backup pf spot. i think chuck can handle them with occasional help from novak and mike harris. also, there would be cardinal. he's a good guy and another hustle player. that should be enough. and btw his contract expires in 2010 when tmac's, rafer's and scola's contracts also expire. that would make the rockets a major player on the free agents market.

so let's come to what the rockets will gain through this trade right away. first, there is kyle lowry. morey can redeem himself here because lowry should have been on the rockets since the battier trade. he's the right backup at the pg spot allowing us to reduce rafer's minutes to some extent. brooks obviously isn't anywhere near ready for that. and then there's the 5th pick. i'd like the rockets to take o.j. mayo or eric gordon, whoever is still available. either one will add lots of talent and athletic ability to our bench.

the rockets' line-up after the trade:

pg: alston / lowry / (mayo or gordon) / brooks
sg: mcgrady / (mayo or gordon) / possible free agent / head
sf: battier / possible free agent / harris / novak
pf: scola / hayes / harris / cardinal / novak
c: yao / mutombo / woods

looks pretty good to me if we can add another veteran wing player to our bench. our main weaknesses (backup pg and bench scoring / talent) would be pretty much covered.

 

sadly, we had him, gerald green, even though his work ethic is horrible, we could limit his minutes until he learned that he would have to work harder to get more PT, he reminds many of a young tmac even though right now hes acting like a young gilbert arenas with his poor work ethic, hopefully he can improve just like arenas and work harder without the big ego of arenas'

 

I know deAndre jordan is supposed to be top 15 but because of his thin frame me might slip down, you think hes worth it, Ive seen him at games and all he does is dunk and get alley oops but atleast hes moderately fast, id like him to be the back up for yao. im an aggie so thats why im throwing his name out there

 

If Hibbert is there, I think should draft him. He's big,smart, and skillful. He's nba ready to play 18-mins behind Yao. Not to mention Yao has had 2 season ending injries 2 of 3 yrs. We might have to face the fact that yao is a walking injured list. At least Hibber can run that princeton offense. If yao holds up, in 2 yrs u can trade Hibbert. If Yao breaks down, trade him or let his deal expire.

 

No point keeping the pick. I say trade him before the trade deadline. If he plays well before the trade deadline, good, his value is high. If he doesn't, well the potential is high since its only a half of his rookie season.

Trade him like how Lakers trade Javaris Crittendon.

On that Rocket and Grizzlies trade Germanroxfans suggested...Grizzlies won't do it cos they wont give up their 5th pick easily. Sounds good for the Rockets but taking on Cardinals contract isn't that attractive while giving up Landry. Intersting proposal nevertheless. I'd do the trade if I was the Rockets but don't see Grizzlies giving up their lottery pick. Wouldn't mind keeping Landry.

With the 5th pick if we had it we should be able to get OJ Mayo. As Minnesota will go for a big man and that leaves Bayless and Mayo...meaning we will get one of them if they are left. That would be pretty good.

 

i would like the deal but i doubt Memphis would take the deal unless we probaly add our second round for that. but i kinda like cardinal, he can also shoot the ball.

 

Lol I wouldn't blink in adding our 2nd rounder to the deal.

2nd rounders are normally worthless anyways. see Sergei Lishouk, Brad Newley,...I would give them Loren Woods as well if they really insist.

 

i'd include aaron brooks or luther head in the deal as well but i doubt memphis would want either one of them.

basically the idea is that memphis would do this because they still want to save money and they'll have trouble finding a player at #5 who is actually worth it getting picked so high and also wants to play for them. obviously this only makes sense for them if they're sure that the top-5 prospects really don't want to play for them. if that's the case saving about 10 million $ and adding landry + pick #25 + x for lowry and pick #5 is at least a pretty decent offer. of course, morey would still have to do his magic to get it done. but we can dream, can't we?

 

If we don't keep it, somewhere, God will kill a little innocent kitten.


In all seriousness, I don't think we're gonna get that "proven" third scorer we've all been craving for so long. Every team in the league will pretty much be asking for either Battier and/or Scola along with our first pick.. and we all know Morey won't give up Scola. We've had a big hole in the PF for far too long for him to just give Scola away.

The only major player we can get is if we trade away Tmac. I don't know what Morey's thinking regarding Tmac. I'd be trying to get a good deal for Tmac under the table if I was the GM, I don't have much patience and I think it's time to just ditch this scheme and go in another direction.

 

Agree, you don't get the athlete but you get the needed size and someone that can actually give you some minutes as a rookie. I think Hibbert is a senior if I'm not mistaken. Also the kid from Ohio State Koufos can actually come in right away as well. I just don't think that type of size will be there at #25 though, but it could push down the CDR's and Rush's of the draft. A dream would be able to go in and grab Florida'a Mareese Speights.

 

he will be a lotto pick. we have a better chance at devon hardin who outperformed jordan at orlando. he also had a promise from the pistons to take him last season, but he opted for one more year of school.