Controversy averted: Chris Paul voted in over Jeremy Lin in 2013 All-Star Game

Facepalm. Seriously. Does Clutch really have to explain what he said? Lin fans need to think twice before making an angry post. They're looking really ridiculous. Facepalm.

 

This thread marks the emergence of the Clutch Only Haters (COH).

 

Yep sad times

 

You can make a pretty objective case for OR against Lin making the all star game. Lin's fans are driven by emotion more than most, which is saying a lot in the sports world.

With great hype comes great responsibility.

 

How about this.... I am glad Lin, Parsons, Asik and Patterson were not voted in as well. Why? Because it would be a JOKE if any of them made. None of them are or ever been all star calibur players.

 

No, none of them would be a joke, fan votes for their favourites, not the best players. Just because you dont agree to other people's vote, doesnt make them jokes.

 

It is the exact opposite of how to guard a jump shooter. Nothing against Torocan, but stats are valuable when they are taken in context and as many factors are weighed and considered... Something I have noticed he does not always do. I enjoy his post, but he is clearly biased towards Jeremy Lin is not afraid to cherry pick data.

 

No it would be a damn Joke to see Patterson standing next to LBJ, Kobe, CP3 and Durant... It was a joke 20 years ago when AC Green started over Karl Malone too.

 

No, what I said is that if you have NO hope of BLOCKING a jump shot, you should STAY DOWN to avoid fouling.

You should only jump if you are similar in leaping and athletic ability and have sufficient height and length to block it.

Here's a couple different opinions on this...

 

No, here's what you said:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7539062&postcount=1418

Show some evidence that indicates "nearly all coaches advise you stay on the ground when defending a jump shot" or just admit that you were wrong. The best you've done so far is to tell us that JVG mentioned it once and he's not even an NBA coach anymore. You didn't even provide a link for that either.

Lol, instead of admitting you were wrong, now you're digging yourself a deeper hole with this nonsense.

 

Fair enough. But cherry-picking is still a far cry from "delusional", no?

 

Are you under the impression that people who doubt Lin are villains? Or what?

 

Actually, THIS is what I said...

First, you don't need to elevate to contest a 3 pointer unless you think you're going to block the shot. Lin isn't going to be blocking many 3 pointers. Additionally, nearly all coaches advise you stay on the ground when defending a jump shot, that way you can still react in case it's a pump fake and the offensive player can't generate contact for an And1. All you want to do is obscure sight of the basket. That doesn't actually require the hand to be right in a player's face, just their hand and arm to be in the line of sight. And 2 feet is MORE than far enough away.

I'll concede that that was rhetorically incorrect. There is no way I can possibly know all the coaches, or whether it's nearly all coaches in the world. What I should have said is that nearly all coaches I have known, or seen commenting on defending the jump shot during media telecasts and interviews have advised players to stay on the ground, with rare exception being granted to those who are capable of blocking those shots (exceptional length and leaping ability).

That still doesn't change that I think it was the correct way to defend the 3 pointer for Lin.

I just admitted that what I stated regarding "all coaches" is incorrect. That doesn't change my position that his actual defensive play was correct.

 

Hmm to contest a 3pter you just have to stay close enough where your hand is able to reach the opponents shot pocket right? When you jump to contest you the shot you go straight up to avoid the foul. It's also about knowing your opponent I.E like if you're guarding Kobe you do want to be too aggressive because he's known to throw consecutive pump fakes in a row.

Lin tends to play too far off his opponent to do any type of real contest. He jumps forward but won't even be close to blocking the shot.

 

blah fix

 

Torocan has explained it perfectly and you are still playing your little word game.

You suck, admit and get over it.

 

Let's face it, we all spent a little bit too much time debating on something that didn't happen.

 

There wouldn't be much of a debate if some posters would stop trying to find bias when there is no bias because of their own bias .

 

I'm a huge Lin fan. I was literally on the verge of saying goodbye to the nba as a spectator, prior to lin's breakout run with the knicks. Lin-sanity, as brief a period as it was, brought me back from the brink.

With that being said, it was impossible to justify voting in Lin over kobe and cp3. With harden, westbrook and parker having excellent years as well, it's pretty much inconceivable that he would be selected by the western conf. coach either.

Being a lin fan and wanting him on the all star team are hardly synonymous. Lin will make the all star, whether it's next season, or the season after. But it wasn't happening this season.

I have to admit, it was a bit disheartening to see harden rack up only half the votes of Lin. I get what Lin brings to the game, but damn, harden's averaging 26 pts a game, that should count for somethin'.

 

If CP3 goes to the east. next year


... then Lin will be an all star