Controls all three branches of government, still blames powerless Democrats for their failings

https://nypost.com/2013/10/03/obama-shuts-down-wwii-national-memorial/

 

This was from 2013. There were no shutdowns under Biden

 

exactly, GOP was too politically afraid because of incidents like what happened in 2013

 

"... AND LIKELY ILLEGAL"

That really should be the slogan for the last nearly decade

 

Simple but very effective.

 

Nah - I heard Corey Booker is going to give an impassioned 40 hour speech on how he believes the children are our future, treat the well and let them lead the way... while his beard wife is getting cranked in the porta-potty by Speaker Mike Johnsons' 20 year old foster child husband.

 

Funny, but I would love to hear one realistic idea that anyone has where the Democrats could effectively use the media that exists today to change the minds of everyone that has their worldview shaped by the corporate media, algorithms controlled by people or countries hostile to liberalism, and of course right wing media??

I'm not saying they are A-Okay just sitting on the sidelines doing nothing but writing a strongly worded letter that might or might not get read on the house floor on CSpan at 2AM... However there isn't enough genuinely productive ideas being shared on what exactly Democrats can, and should do to combat the war on truth, and information that they are up against in 2025.

The fact is, Mike Johnson, and Donald Trump could go out and say that Democrats (who have no power in government at the moment) shut the government down because they wanted to mandate sex changes and genital mutilation for all high school football athletes and NOT ONE single media entity out there that is part of this pro-right wing media ecosystem would push back on that, and correct the lie to their viewers.... and NEARLY ALL of those viewers across Fox, Facebook, Tik-Tok, Youtube, etc. who didn't support Democrats yesterday would take the side of Trump, and buy into that lie full throated.

The messaging battle people think the Democrats need to be fighting has already been lost. It was lost years ago when right wing billionaires saw this opportunity coming, and were ready with their checkbooks out when this moment happened to completely own ALL of the media, and messaging ecosphere in America, and create a society with a majority that is subservient with their mindshare to whatever those entities put in front of them regardless of how ridiculous the lies are.

But if you think I am wrong tell me... what realistic thing could the Democratic party do here to realistically change the minds of anyone in this country whose default position is whatever their media ecosystem tells them the truth is???

 

That is a fair - and a good question. It is a lot easier to point to mistakes that the Democrats have made, not reading the public well in the last roughly decade. I guess my response to that is that Democrats have not adjusted well enough to social media and have aligned too tightly with the wrong cause or group of people.

There is no reason that the left cannot use social media to their advantage, some are very good at it but most are not. The Democrats had the great equalizer to the Republicans ability to prey on fear -and that was fighting for the common man, and employment etc. That got lost along the way for some.

One thing the Democrats can do - and in fairness it will have to be taken, is turn the party over to younger and more charismatic members. At this point it is too establishment heavy. The leaders of the party outside of a few are not in touch with the American people.

Donald Trump could yes - because he is just really good at politics, Mike Johnson is a creepy closeted homosexual that likes having teenage male foster children in his house. He would be toast if he didn't bend at the knee to Trump.

The only way to "win" if for the Democrats to win is to form a winning coalition that doesn't fracture. I personally think that likely means having more non politicians and more charismatic leadership that is reflection of the people, or at least resonates with them.

The messaging battle isn't lost forever - times change, people change, leaders change, parties change. Learn how to passionately appeal to a core of the American people. I personally think it is class warfare that could take the Democrats a long way.

 

Undocumented individuals dont qualify for ACA subsidies which is what the fight is about... MAGA are claiming illegals qualify for Obamacare subsidies which they don't. Illegals don't qualify for federal subsidies

 

Medicaid is a federal subsidy.

 

I guess I'm looking at the infrastructure more than the tactics in this case. Using social media correctly assumes that the social media ecosystem and those that control the algorithms would even allow them to use social media to their advantage even if they were good at it.

Also being good at social media often means you know how to drive the algorithm more than it means that you are a great messenger. If Dems were doing stunts to drive the algorithm, do you think the MSM would cover the tactics and judge them on that, or judge what they really are there to talk about which is principles, and policy that supports it??

Case in point - if you are someone who likes golf in any way, are a straight man, and the algorithm picks that up, I can guarantee you you'll be sent to Paige Spiranac videos because of what drives social media is sex, violence, outrage, or vulgarity. Does that mean Paige Spiranac is the best golfer, or is she getting on your feed the most because of.... you know...

If you're trying to use social media in politics responsibly to spread a message, good luck. The platforms are setup to disregard posts without either of the things I mentioned. Trump is not a master of social media.... he's just a regular blowhard troll who goes viral all the f-ing time because he lives and breathes the kind of nonsense that drives social media algorithms.

At least on the politics sure. But young people talking about universal healthcare probably still won't go viral. If AOC cooks steaks in Yoga pants, or if Ruben Gallego wrestles alligators with Too Turnt Tony does that really help Democrats spread their message???... I dunno... maybe. Maybe that's just where we are.

Completely agree. Hard to do that now though. I think that powerful sea change probably can only happen in the primaries with an outsider figure or personality essentially running against the party.

In Congressional races you see the Dems courting these folks left and right too. Here in Texas Bobby Pulido is a fantastic candidate especially for the area of Texas he's running in. These candidates are all over the place, but there's a misconception that the party is still run by the establishment and Chuck Schumer. Schumer is a joke, and needs to be replaced yes, but nobody thinks that's where the part is headed for its future. That would be like saying Mitch McConnell is the future of modern right wing politics. Senate legislative leaders are never at the spearhead of the party's spiritual core.

I hope you are right, but I'm not optimistic by the fact that nearly all media outlets, and soon to be social media outlets are owned by Trump loyalists who control the algorithm. Do we really trust the battle when the referees are going to be Zuckerberg (FB), Elon (X), Trump (TS), Murdochs (TikTok), and the MSM corporations who literally are lining up 1 by 1 to pay millions directly to Trump in bogus corrupt lawsuits???

 

To follow up my above point though.... I'm definitely not opposed to attractive Democratic party women cooking in yoga pants while talking about things like expanding Medicare, or reforming the supreme court.

I am not that high and mighty that I wouldn't totally be down for those tactics to go viral.

 

It's really disgusting when the President and Vice President perpetrate those lies.