Which might call into question the thesis that an attempted 3 is better than an attempted 2 for all players.
100% agree. Contested anything is never good. Is anybody here going to question HOW IN THE **** he got these stats besides coming up with this JCdenton chart?
Probably worse for bigmen who can't shoot. Take Capela for example. He's one of the few players I would probably rather take a midrange shot over a 3pt. That said, I would rather him take neither.
When GS and to an extent SA take away the Rockets 3 pointers due to their great defense, we are paralyzed. Harden needs to do more than hurl the ball up. What does Morey have to say about that? D'Antoni is no Mchale, but he needs to come up solutions too. The addition of Chris Paul should fortunately ease the pressure, but good mid range shooting is rapidly becoming a lost art. It is another tool to use. Stats aren't useless, but they have their limitations. Basketball is not made out of a cook book formula.
I usually agree with this, but Harden is a more than capable mid range shooter and the Spurs were inviting him to shoot from there and he never did. Our offense sputtered badly in the playoffs. Need to be able to utilize all areas of the floor or else we are too easy to guard.
What SA did to us (running shooters off the 3pt line and locking up Anderson) is a big reason why we wanted another playmaker to play off Harden and a HUGE reason why we got CP3 instead of a big like a lot of fans wanted. For better or worse, we were a one player team last season. Iso would normally be a good way to counter that as we all know Harden can dismantle teams from the post or with his step back from midrange, but he ran out of gas doing everything for us. People don't realize how much losing Nene hurt Harden in that series.
Harden got tired would be my answer to that. Usually when they clamp down on the interior and run our shooters off the perimeter (or they just suck and miss), we go into Harden iso mode which usually leads to step backs or FT's. Unfortunately for us, Harden got tired and when Harden gets tired, he has a bad habit of jacking up threes.
What do you mean? I'm saying the 1.10 pps looks too low for open 3s vs the league average. Counting AND-1s would only increase the points. And even counting fouls on misses should produce more than 1.1 from three free throws.
Thought it was PPP. I'm calling this stat misleading. Fouls do matter. If there's no way to incorporate where a fouled shot was taken from, then I feel like it's not showing efficiency's complete picture. Of course, stats don't paint a complete picture either, but you know what I mean. Another hole poked into this stat.
Correction, you can work to get a slightly contested 2s which i would take over extra contested threes all day come playoff time.
I wouldn't say PPS is useless. PPS is fine for a coach/GM to measure the good shot selection on the floor. Points per Possession includes rebounds, fouls, etc...so that's more a system analytic. But I agree the graphic in the OP isn't what a coach or GM would look at, since different players are shooting those shots. They would look at something like "Is Ariza good enough on open 2, such that we should entertain trying to get him open looks in that area." The answer would be an analytic for *just* Ariza. As for the OP graphic, I still say the 1.10 PPS on open 3s in the league seems quite low. I'm not sure what data they are using to come up with 36% shooting on Open 3s, when the league average on all threes is 35% = 1.05 PPS
That's a really good question. You should tweet him and find out. I am being totally serious. I would do it myself, but don't have Twitter.
Turns out I was right(I think): http://hoopshype.com/2012/05/09/why-not-points-per-shot/ I'm guessing they include And 1s (in this particular stat they've posted)?
Not sure where you're going with this. I'm saying 1.10 PPS seems too low. Your explanation would make me say it is even lower than I'd expect. 1.10 PPS on open 3s translates to 36.7% 3FG%. That seems too low. If the 1.10 includes AND-1s, then you are saying the actual 3FG% would have to be even lower than 36.7%. Do you get what I'm saying? 50% on twos = 1.00 PPS....right? 36.7% on 3s = 1.10. The league as a whole shoots 35.8% on ALL threes. That is 1.074....and that doesn't count any extra points from free throws.
Yeah, as Bubbles would say, it's ****y. I think we need this person's equation. We might have outed his site as a fake in the sense that it's not operational yet as it's putting out impossible stats.
wtf? This is an compilation of every team in the league. Things need to be evaluated in context and per person/team basis. This stuff is assinine. There are some open 2s that are better than 3s. The hard part is knowing when where to take them. That's what makes teams like SA deadly. Also I'm guessing this is regular season as a whole? How is this specifically for the playoffs? I have no problem with Morey's strategy for the regular season. But clogging the paint, running off the 3pt line when the defense tightens is something we have witnessed to many times in the playoffs.
GM's biggest job is not getting players, it's knowing who he chase after. Heck even Knicks GMs can get players , but they tend to get overpriced, not very good players.
