Console Wars Thread! PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii U Fight!

What Mr.Scarface said is true. My Vita might have specs that aren't that impressive when compared to a GTX Titan, but thanks to the power of the Cloud, it won't matter.

Too bad the Cloud can't help the Titan. If that were the case, I suppose we'd only have specs to look at.

 

BTW, I'm going to start posting The Final Bosman episodes in here. Besides being somewhat related, I thought we'd get something good out of this thread.

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The amount of bandwidth needed for resolution graphics does not exist.

 

How so?

I agree (as noted, that post was dripping with sarcasm), though that isn't clear following some of what you've provided. If the Cloud can help the XBO to such a degree that the specs alone aren't a good indicator of the level of graphics possible in PS4/XBO, then I think you could also say that the Vita could match the level of graphics outputted by a Titan (thanks to the Cloud).

I think the assumption is (obviously) wrong, but if it is correct, then I certainly would like to see how the claim that follows it is wrong.

Or to put it another way, I'd like to see something other than copied PR statements when discussing the power of the cloud and its impact on visuals in games. Otherwise, it doesn't matter, and we can base these discussions around the usual things (overall specs, system design, OS resources, ease of development, etc.).

 

That's not what a lot of xbots believe. MS have them believing the cloud is some kind of special sauce that'll make graphics better.

True and false. PS3 cpu is more powerful, but their gpu was a lot weaker. 360 had the weaker cpu and stronger gpu. The exclusives on ps3 look better than the exclusives on the 360.

 

This is like the worst console debate war ever.

The fact is you probably already bought the console you prefer and you are not sitting around going "I wish I bought the other console instead". You are probably enjoying playing the console you chose to buy. For those on the fence, if graphics and specs is all you care about as the deciding factor...then what the hell are you doing in this thread? You made up your mind already so go buy the PS4. The facts are most people look beyond graphics and specs these days. This isn't like the old days with the PC before any cool consoles came out where new games were coming out and you had to have the next gen video card because you wanted to run the game with high detail on and everything maxed out. We are way beyond those days for most people. The fact is...even then...games were pretty pathetic back then and can't hold a candle to what they come up with nowadays for either console.

 

If the Cloud can help overcome a 30%-50% difference, why not 300%-500%? 3000%-5000%?

Hint: I'm looking for someone to quantify the improvements the Cloud can provide. Less PR, more technical details/numbers.

Of course, I'm playing along with the fact that XBO would somehow exclusively receive these Cloud benefits. Whatever number you want to throw down, it would be silly to think those improvements would be exclusive to one platform.

Citation required.

What makes you think there is more potential for increased performance on the XBO? Could the customization Sony made to compute not offer some substantial improvements over time, similar to how XBO would see improvements from better driver support?

I'm not necessarily saying I know the answers to those questions, but I'm also not making any definitive claims.

chow_yun_fat somewhat touched on the 360/PS3 difference, though I know this has been repeated numerous times before (though you and others keep repeating yourselves).

 

Im gonna go a little off topic here but I gotta say this about the game industry and where its headed. Game companies releasing games way to early in order to meet a certain deadline just to make their investors happy. As a result, there are a lot of games that feel unfinished especially when this new generation has launched. I'm looking at Battlefield 4 especially(EA again! lol). They thought they can release the game and fix the problems Battlefield is having through patches. What a load a bull****! They should've spent a couple of more months polishing it. NBA2K14 to a certain extent as well. NBA Live 14 is a joke and I'm not sure if it is even worth saving. Forza 5 is another game that felt rushed and could've used more polishing(Forza 4 was way better). Makes me glad Watchdog was delayed instead of Ubisoft releasing a subpar game.

 

I played 2k14 and CoD: Ghosts on PS4. I HATE HATE HATE using 2 joysticks to aim (especially the PS4 controller since I got used to the 360 one form playing 2k14 on PC). PC gaming would be the best by far if it were not for stupid hackers (or better detection software). CoD MW3 was by far the best FPS on PC imo. On consoles it feels like I have no control over where I want to shoot. I don't understand why people prefer consoles over PC. Maybe I should stick to single player for now. As for 2k14, it's okay. The graphics are only as advertised during the cut scenes and replays. The actual game play doesn't have that much better graphics.

I also don't like playing 1080p on a 42" TV. I have to keep shifting my eyes when I pass the ball to the other corner. On a 23" monitor it felt better. Overall, meh. Now I remember why I skipped the 360 and PS3.

I forgot how much load times suck.

 

On MW3 PC I had an average 3:1 KR from start to finish. When I started I was 1:1 at worst. On PS4 I'm lucky if I have .5 KR. So many bad maps to learn.

 

Remind me not to hang out with Andrew Wiggins, Jeez what a boner killer.

 

The Xbox Live cloud powered by Windows Azure is game changing. I can't wait to see how developers unleash it's full potential over the next 3-5 years. Anyone who has ever used Azure realizes the power this puts in developer's hands.

 

Or just don't be stupid. Seriously, the guy's name was "Xbox Sign Out." There is a reason he targeted Call of Duty players I'm sure.

 

I bet you believed in the original kinect and all the fuss they were making about going all digital and how it was the last console generation to use discs. What happened with all of that? What was the name of that fictitious character, elmo, emo or something, the kid you could interact with on the kinect? Everyone found out later that the whole show was choreographed and fake. Game was never released. If anything, MS is great at building up hype and failing to deliver.

All this talk about the power of the cloud, what exactly has MS done with it? If anything, Sony has one upped them again. Playstation Now will offer this power of the cloud and stream their games from their previous consoles on other devices and allow live tv I think this summer. I really don't understand how this power of cloud is relevant at all, because it's something both systems are capable of, not just one.