Conservatives start suggesting that colluding with Russia isn’t so bad

My, Joe Walsh sounds a little salty about the King. Or perhaps... disillusioned.

 

She didn't make a false statement.

During the RNC the platform was changed to remove calls to arm Ukraine and replaced with general assistance at the behest of Trump operatives.

They have since gone forward with authorizing sales of arms to Ukraine, but that doesn't make Katy Tur's statement false.

 

but that's just too nuanced for the Russian bot, RL,

who is limited by the algorithm written for it​

 

Really cool thread looking at what conservatives were thinking re: Nixon and Watergate...

 

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We are on year 2 of the Russian allegations and not a single shred of evidence that Trump had anything to do with Russia. How long can liberals continue to make these accusations without putting up evidence? Put up or shut up. We've had nothing from the libs except innuendo and guilt by accusation for 2 years now. At what point do you admit you've got nothing? Trump is not a target of the Mueller investigation -- as stated by Mueller himself. Mueller's proposed questions for Trump did not speak to Russian collusion whatsoever. The Manafort trial does not speak to Russia AT ALL.

"Russia" and Trump's involvement is the most baseless conspiracy theory ever crafted. At this point, though, the media, intelligence agencies' former leadership, and the DNC are so invested that they can't turn back. It's very bad for them and for the country. But their selfishness will drag this out further.

GOOD DAY

 

lol. baghdad texxx strikes again! youre totally triggered and unhinged kid!

 

If all the above was true, and was actually what Trump fans truly believe (they don't), they'd want Mueller to have not been billed as an un-credible prosecutor & they'd want him to finish the report which Trump fans SAY will ultimately show a clean bill of health.

Even if they do think Mueller is not credible, they'd still want the final report to go out to show how damaging that would be to Mueller how far he was stretching to get to anything worth reporting to Rosenstein, and would help Trump in any potential Impeachment hearings.

But we know that's not what posters like this are trying to do. There's only ONE reason both Trump and his cult do NOT want Mueller to finish. If you thought he was innocent, you'd want Trump to be interviewed by Mueller yesterday, and have Mueller finish so you can SHUT THE LIBS UP.

Posts like the above & Trump's own tweets tell everyone as loud and obnoxiously as possible that "Hey look here.... we have something to hide" calling attention to the elephant in your own living room while we are just driving by as observers.

 

Muellers democratic team will find collusion if it occurred. Give them time.

The president should have more flexibility after the next election.

 

We need to start clearing this up. Collusion isn't a legal term. Collusion = Conspiracy to commit crimes against the US, or defraud the US. They are one in the same.

Title 18 Chapter 19 code 371 is where the "collusion" crimes are committed, and they have already been filed in Mueller's case.

Manafort has already been billed as a non-important indicted suspect as it relates to Trump but he has already been charged with "collusion" in non-legal terms IE Conspiracy.

We will see if more Americans get charged with "Conspiracy". For now though, most Patriotic Americans SHOULD BE furious that Trump was foolish enough to hire someone not acting in the best interest of the United States and in the pocket of foreign governments. The Manafort case doesn't have to be about Trump if you don't want it to be. It should however 100% be about Trump's terrible decision making in "having the best people". Even Trump fans should be saying "Do better!!.. we love America".... Sadly they aren't doing that.

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I don't quite understand your statement "the president should have more flexibility after the next election"... not sure what that means.

 

Could you please expand on how Mueller's team is democratic?

 

Because trump says so...

 

He is saying POTUS is handicapped by the investigation and after he's cleared of all the crimes, and win the 2020 election, he is no longer handicapped and can do much more harm, i meant, do #MAGA. It's part of a conspiracy theory that the LEFT (Mueller and team) is working overtime to prevent this POTUS from being successful. #BlameEveryoneElseForMyFailure #TheBiggestVitcimInHisotry


Remember when it's was a nothing burger. How far have we gone. Legally aside...

If you try to rob a bank, but find no money, did you rob or not rob a bank? Trump campaign is unpatriotic and unAmerican. At the minimum, they tried to work with a foreign government to win. Trump is likely to be directly involved. Yes, ALL patriotic american should be furious.

Aside from that, it's quite clear that Trump acted to obstruct justice. He continue to do so now.

And it's 100% fact that Trump and his campaign lied everything small and large about the Mueller investigation.

These are a bunch of morally corrupt liars. People that still support him... kneeling to the king.

 

All 25 of the angry men??

 

Yes, collusion is slang.

This is like saying someone was "convicted of crime".

The correct term is conspiracy, which is absolutely a crime. Specifically conspiracy to commit:
Election Fraud
Wire Fraud
Bribery
Bank Fraud
Computer Crimes/Theft
Computer Crimes/Espionage
Extortion
Identity Theft
Obstruction of Justice
Witness Tampering
Perjury
Making False Statements
FARA
RICO
Money Laundering
Tax Evasion

 

Greg Andres, Rush Atkinson, Ryan Dickey, Michael Dreeben, Kyle Freeny, Andrew Goldstein, Adam Jed, Elizabeth Prelogar, James Quarles, Jeannie Rhee, Brandon Van Grack, and Andrew Weissmann are confirmed Democrats.

 

Never mind, it was obama not trump touting more flexibility with the ruskies.

 

Collusion is not a crime? Okay.

Conspiracy

Obstruction of Justice

Lying under oath

Larcenous treason

Unconscionable malfeasance

Stormy Daniels

Self-Incrimination

Impeachable Offense

Obvious mistake in history

Not gonna get away with it…

 

So because 12 of the 35 known people on Mueller's team are Democrats, you consider it Democratic?

 

Yes... because Liberals all the sudden flipped with the whole anti-war sentiment, and are rooting for nuclear war with Russia. I know that's the propagated narrative to try and get Americans to lighten up on Trump/Russia, but it's bullsh#$.

I and I'm sure 99% of liberals want the US government to have a healthy working relationship with Russia.... BUT want relationship to be in America's interest. We also want free and fair elections... something contrary to what Trump and Putin have been working against. Putin in hacking our elections, and Trump publicly encouraging hacking Americans.

The problem.... which seems to be hard to comprehend, is that people in Trump's orbit, as evidenced by indictments like the Manafort one, are not working in America's interest. Is Trump working in America's interest.... sure as F doesn't look like it when he puts on a performance like he did in Helsinki, and with the mountain of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence that is piled up at this point.

HOWEVER.... I and I'm sure most liberals just want the Truth and the evidence out there so we know for sure if he's just a fool or if he really is compromised and working AGAINST AMERICAN INTERESTS.

Trump's followers are increasingly NOT wanting the truth out there.... why in the world would they NOT want the truth if they are so convinced that he's innocent, and the evidence is purely circumstantial?

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Also when Obama did the "Russian reset" Putin had not-

-Shot down a jet full of innocent civilians
-Helped the Syrian dictator murder his own people
-Invaded Ukraine ( a sovereign nation)
-Annexed Crimea
-Hijacked his own election
-Killed jouranlists
-HACKED OUR ELECTION

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Obama had every right AT THE TIME to push for a change in relations with Russia. In 2018, do you REALLY think it's time to loosen up, or time to make sure we watch our own A$$? Do you not care about our ability to have free and fair elections? Sure doesn't seem like it.

 

That's what Trump does. His supporters either don't care or don't believe anyone who pushes back. They usually respond with, "Well, Hillary..." Just as they are conditioned.

The closer the special counsel gets to the truth, the more the narrative evolves, the more Trump tweets that Mueller should be fired, etc etc.