This can be filed in the "take it or leave it" or "FWIW" files... rumors are, at least two major bombshells are soon to hit. At least one connects Trump Senior. May involve tapes At least two major media sources (not CNN) involved. Sensitivity to not be released because of the Mueller investigation. This seems to be consistent with what Adam Schiff was mentioning... that there was more info known than the Don Jr story (now apparently known since April). If it doesn't happen... oh well and I will quit posting rumors. But if this does happen... I may start digging around the trade and FA rumors.
If there is literal video proof of Trump sucking on Putin's PP I will buy the DVD for once before watching it on Netflix.
Great and hilarious column for comic/analysis relief. "It's Fredos all the way down." https://theringer.com/donald-trump-jr-fredo-godfather-a7eb639711b6 "It is instructive to examine the Fredo Archetype — to interrogate one of the few remaining pop-cultural touchstones that might even begin to explain how the Trump family operates. But you can only reach the conclusion that the comparison fails, that poor, sweet, hapless, doomed Fredo can’t explain this, either."
Still no explanation for why this woman was allowed in the country without a visa. Now, I know under Obama immigration law was arbitrarily and purposefully not enforced, but the fact that her temporary exception was personally approved by AG Lynch, and the fact that there is no paper trail or record of another exception for the June timeframe in which she met with Trump, looks awfully fishy. http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...sian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump Exclusive: DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team BY JOHN SOLOMON AND JONATHAN EASLEY - 07/12/17 09:23 PM EDT The Russian lawyer who penetrated Donald Trump’s inner circle was initially cleared into the United States by the Justice Department under “extraordinary circumstances” before she embarked on a lobbying campaign last year that ensnared the president’s eldest son, members of Congress, journalists and State Department officials, according to court and Justice Department documents and interviews. This revelation means it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa. Later, a series of events between an intermediary for the attorney and the Trump campaign ultimately led to the controversy surrounding the president's eldest son. Just five days after meeting in June 2016 at Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr., presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner and then Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Moscow attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya showed up in Washington in the front row of a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Russia policy, video footage of the hearing shows. She also engaged in a pro-Russia lobbying campaign and attended an event at the Newseum in Washington, D.C. where Russian supporters showed a movie that challenged the underpinnings of the U.S. human rights law known as the Magnitysky Act, which Russian leader Vladimir Putin has reviled and tried to reverse. The Magnitsky Act imposed financial and other sanctions on Russia for alleged human rights violations connected to the death of a Russian lawyer who claimed to uncover fraud during Putin's reign. Russia retaliated after the law was passed in 2012 by suspending Americans' ability to adopt Russian children. At least five congressional staffers and State Department officials attended that movie showing, according to a Foreign Agent Registration Act complaint filed with the Justice Department about Veselnitskaya’s efforts. And Veselnitskaya also attended a dinner with the chairman of the House subcommittee overseeing Russia policy, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) and roughly 20 other guests at a dinner club frequented by Republicans. In an interview with The Hill on Wednesday, Rohrabacher said, “There was a dinner at the Capitol Hill Club here with about 20 people. I think I was the only congressman there. They were talking about the Magnitysky case. But that wasn’t just the topic. There was a lot of other things going on. So I think she was there but I don’t remember any type of conversation with her between us. But I understand she was at the table.” Rohrabacher said he believed Veselnitskaya and her U.S. colleagues, which included former Democratic Congressman Ronald Dellums, were lobbying other lawmakers to reverse the Magnitysky Act and restore the ability of Americans to adopt Russian children that Moscow had suspended. “I don’t think this was very heavily lobbied at all compared with the other issues we deal with,” he said. As for his former congressional colleague Dellums, Rohrabacher said he recalled having a conversation about the Magnitsky Act and the adoption issue, “Ron and I like each other … I have to believe he was hired a lobbyist but I don’t know." Veselnitskaya did not return a call seeking comment Wednesday at her Moscow office. Dellums also did not return a call to his office seeking comment. But in an interview with NBC News earlier this week, Veselnitskaya acknowledged her contacts with Donald Trump Jr. and in Washington were part of a lobbying campaign to get members of Congress and American political figures to see "the real circumstances behind the Magnitsky Act.” That work was a far cry from the narrow reason the U.S. government initially gave for allowing Veselnitskaya into the U.S. in late 2015, according to federal court records. The Moscow lawyer had been turned down for a visa to enter the U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch for the limited purpose of helping a company owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, her client, defend itself against a Justice Department asset forfeiture case in federal court in New York City. During a court hearing in early January 2016 as Veselnitskaya’s permission to stay in the country was about to expire, federal prosecutors described how rare the grant of parole immigration was as Veselnitskaya pleaded for more time to remain in the United States. “In October the government bypassed the normal visa process and gave a type of extraordinary permission to enter the country called immigration parole,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Monteleoni explained to the judge during a hearing Jan. 6, 2016. “That's a discretionary act that the statute allows the Attorney General to do in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, we did that so that Mr. Katsyv could testify. And we made the further accommodation of allowing his Russian lawyer into the country to assist,” he added. The prosecutor said Justice was willing to allow the Russian lawyer to enter the United States again as the trial in the case approached so she could help prepare and attend the proceedings. The court record indicates the presiding judge asked the Justice Department to extend Veselnitskaya’s immigration parole another week until he decided motions in the case. There are no other records in the court file indicating what happened with that request or how Veselnitskaya appeared in the country later that spring. The U.S. Attorney’s office in New York confirmed Wednesday to The Hill that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a grant of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January 2016. Justice Department and State Department officials could not immediately explain how the Russian lawyer was still in the country in June for the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and the events in Washington D.C. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has demanded the U.S. government provide him all records on how Veselnitskaya entered and traveled in the U.S., a request that could shed additional light on her activities. Interviews with a half dozen Americans who came in contact with Veselnitskaya or monitored her U.S. activities in 2016 make clear that one of her primary goals was to see if the Congress and/or other political leaders would be interested in repealing the 2012 Magnitsky Act punishing Russia or at least ensure the Magnitsky name would not be used on a new law working its way through Congress in 2016 to punish human rights violators across the globe. “There’s zero doubt that she and her U.S. colleagues were lobbying to repeal Magnitsky or at least ensure his name was removed from the global law Congress was considering,” said U.S. businessman William Browder, who was the main proponent for the Magnitsky Act and who filed a FARA complaint against Veselnitskaya, Dellums and other U.S. officials claiming they should have registered as foreign agent lobbyists because of the work. The 2012 law punished Russia for the prison death of Moscow lawyer/accountant Sergei Magnitsky, who U.S. authorities allege uncovered a massive $230 million money laundering scheme involving Russian government official that hurt U.S. companies. Magnitsky became a cause celeb in the United States after his mysterious death in a Russian prison, but Russian officials have disputed his version of events and in 2011 posthumously convicted him of fraud in Russia. It is that alternate theory of the Magnitsky fraud cause that Veselnitskaya and her U.S. allies tried to get into the hands of American officials, including Rohrabacher, the Trump team and other leaders.
...continued... Browder's complaint, which alleges that Washington lobbyists working with Veselnitskaya failed to register as foreign agents, is still pending at the Justice Department. It identified several events in Washington that Veselnitskaya and her allies attended or staged in June 2016. All of them occurred in the days immediately after the Russian lawyer used a music promoter friend to get an audience June 9 with Trump’s eldest son promising dirt on Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton and instead using the meeting to talk about Magnitsky and the adoption issue, according to Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya. On June 13, Veselnitskaya attended the screening of an anti-Magnitsky movie at the Newseum, which drew a handful of congressional staffers and State Department officials, according to Browder’s complaint. The next day, she appeared in the front row of a hearing chaired by House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce (R-Calif.), sitting right behind a former U.S. ambassador who testified on the future of U.S-Russia policy. Rohrabacher said he recalled around the same time a conversation with Dellums about Magnitsky and the adoption issue and then attending a dinner that included Veselnitskaya at the Capitol Hill Club with about 20 people. Sources close to the lobbying effort to rename the Magnisky Act, conducted over the summer of 2016, said it fizzled after only a month or two. They described Veselnitskaya, who does not speak English, as a mysterious and shadowy figure. They said they were confused as to whether she had an official role in the lobbying campaign, although she was present for several meetings. The sources also described their interactions with Veselnitskaya in the same way that Trump Jr. did. They claimed not to know who she worked for or what her motives were. “Natalia didn’t speak a word of English,” said one source. “Don’t let anyone tell you this was a sophisticated lobbying effort. It was the least professional campaign I’ve ever seen. If she’s the cream of the Moscow intelligence community then we have nothing to worry about.” The sources added they met with Veselnitksaya only once or twice over the course of the lobbying campaign, which culminated with airing of a Russian documentary that challenged the notion that Magnitsky was beaten to death in a Russian prison About 80 people, including congressional staffers and State Department employees attended the viewing at the Newseum.
Too bad some of you guys don't get paid at least a little bit for defending Trump on here day after day.
No need to defend I don't care about this other then he should have disclosed it What was he supposed to dot the time of the meeting. go to the police cause Russians got in Clinton's email? Seriously I don't care about Clinton's emails or Russians hacking them. I interviewed at the Russian state owned gas company when they opened an office in downtown in 2010 That's where Putin's gets his money from to do all his dumb ish You should be more concerned about where Putin gets his money from
Is treason still punishable by death? Ridiculous people tossing that word around I see a dude taking a meeting with an Eastern Euro lawyer chic Seriously would you decline that
I don't have cable and the national news or even the BBC isn't covering this like cnn . I can understand this thread adding another chapter but I have to make effort to find what's the latest on this I'm not attacking CNN , I caught it today and they had "white house in crisis" scrawled at the bottom the whole time I was watching I'm seriously wondering if its a big deal or not but I have ruled out treason
Welcome back comrade big "no rush to judgement" texxx. Hope the Russian lessons are going well. While the questions about how or why the Russian lawyer was in the country are sketchy at best and deserve investigation and explanation, I am certain that the complete and thorough investigation of the Trump Banda will help provide answers to all questions. Questions like... was the conversation about Hillary Clinton emails between president trump's son, his senior adviser, and his campaign manager and the Russian TAPED? And if so, would those tapes also capture the voice of the president himself? And if so, why has he continually lied about knowledge of the conversation? And what other tapes and other evidence of Trump's knowledge of and participation in this growing scandal? Again, I am sure this will all be made known soon enough. And then, there will be a big "boom".
on his TV show, Stephen Colbert made this public apology to Eric Trump We thought you're the dumb one !
Well the conspiracy theory now is that because Natalia was "allowed" in the country, she must have been a mole for the Obama admin. Did we forget that as part of Obama's punishment for the hacks, he kicked out several known Russian operatives? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...9/barack-obama-sanctions-russia-election-hack For whatever reason, we've known for a fact that the US since the Cold War has always allowed known Russian govt officials to come in and out of the county. However that's why we have intelligence agencies monitoring them. Also Chuck Grassley is someone's actions we should be watching as he is working overtime to help Trump in fueling this conspiracy theory that this whole investigation started as an effort to plant evidence on Trump from Obama/Hillary through McCabe the acting FBI director... which is nonsense now that we've verified parts of the Dossier and have the Trump jr emails to show more and more probable cause to investigate. But Grassley is trying to show that there is reason to believe the initial start of the FBI investigation was politically motivated (and the Dossier was the basis and that was a Clinton/Obama staged piece of evidence) in order to get the whole case thrown out. You have to wonder if someone as high up as Grassley is working overtime to squash this on behalf of Trump, how deep does this go not just with Trump but skeletons in the closet that the GOP is trying to protect? Then there is the fact that Paul Ryan and co are working overtime to stall and water down the sanctions bill on behalf of the White House. The bill passed 98 to 2 in the Senate and those 2 only voted no because it wasn't harsh enough. There is just no way you can say with a straight face that we have a real problem with the GOP and the White House and something stinks to high hell as to why the GOP is working behind closed doors to undermine this investigation and whatever is happening with the GOP/Trump and Russia. My guess is it all has to do with that half a trillion dollars invested in land rights for the arctic Circle to drill for oil but that's just a guess. Don't want to fuel conspiracy theories or anything
Yes, that's exactly what he should have done. Hacking is a federal offense, it seems you're oblivious to this fact.
Obama and Lynch were incredibly smart, and clairvoyant to boot. They let the Russian lawyer into the country in 2015. Never mind the excuse that she was allowed in to be present in the defense of her client... no, Obama and Lynch were thinking thirty moves ahead. Jiminies... it was like the Manchurian Candidate. Too bad they aren't still running the country... two people so smart, so skilled. Instead, we got the two dopey and gullible Trumps that fell for Obama/Lynch's trick.
