Yes, bundles of straw shaped like humans (i.e. "liberal pc language police") will spontaneously combust at a lower temperature than the ambient temperature in Hades. Anyway, my apologies to everyone else for derailing from the important topic: the health of Giffords.
http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/fox-news-wins-2010-cable-news-ratings-war-23505 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/business/media/30cnn.html
I have no problem calling out both sides when they do it. The whole Nazi comparison thing is ridiculous because it all pales in comparison to nazis It's true that the GOP has lied and made up stuff about the health care reform bill, but lying in politics doesn't make you like the Nazis. Not the tone I nor most people were looking for. True it isn't extremist like calling on violence as an answer to political disagreements but it's definitely not helpful and is part of the poison type rhetoric that just goes against the type of politics Giffords championed. The GOP should be called out for any lies they make, but leave the Goebbels reference out of it. It simply wasn't needed.
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Yes the more people want civil debate the more they should be made fun of. To quote TMBG: He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth People should get beat up for stating their beliefs
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The pre-Obama dark ages... I shudder to think about the times when an innocent child could still bring a loaded cookie to school. (Am I still allowed to say "loaded"?)
Hey look, more overblown slippery slope libertarian anti-state strawman vomit. Haven't seen that before. Might as well post a reason.tv link and a youtube clip while you're at it, neo-basso.
I think the Goebbels reference actually makes a lot of sense there. He's not saying Republicans kill Jews like Goebbels or wages war like Goebbels, just that they propagandize like Goebbels -- specifically telling a big lie often enough that it is accepted as truth -- and I think that's pretty accurate. The Republicans have done an admirably good job at repeating the same assertions from a wide distribution of participants to be accepted by the public as common knowledge even when it's been debunked as untrue. I think it's unfortunate you can't invoke Goebbels on this subject, because I think it's an important cautionary tale. This strategy works much better than it should and is used more often than it should. Reminding people of famously bad results of this strategy could perhaps make them less susceptible to this sort of deception. But, you're not allowed to go there rhetorically.
I think bringing up Goebbels though while leaving out the reasons behind the NAzi propaganda makes it a huge difference. I'm not sure how much more the point is made by bringing up the Nazi reference rather than just pointing out the falsehoods by some in the GOP, and showing that by repeating the lie over and over people start to believe it. I don't think it's necessary or helpful to bring Goebbels into it.
I'm on my way to the Medical Center(Houston) today for a couple of patients. The congresswoman will be at TIRR Memorial Herman(near Ben Taub) today, I will stop by and drop off a get well card at the front desk.Thoughts and prayers are with her and her family!
Figured this might not be worth its own thread but very sad that someone's political beliefs, whatever they may be, would prevent him from doing his job to render emergency aid. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41654874/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001 Memos: Firefighter refused Giffords 911 call Veteran retired from force before he could be disciplined, newspaper reports TUCSON, Ariz. — A city firefighter refused to respond to the Jan. 8 shooting spree that left six people dead and 13 wounded, the Arizona Daily Star reported, citing city memos. The firefighter, Mark Ekstrum, quit the force two days later as management was considering possible disciplinary action against him, the Daily Star reported. Fire Capt. Ben Williams wrote in a memo that when Ekstrum told him he would not go on the call, "he mentioned something about 'political bantering' and he did not want to be part of it," the newspaper reported. After he was contacted by the Daily Star about the incident, Ekstrum said in a statement he was distraught about the shootings and had no disagreement with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot in the head and is recovering at a Houston medical facility. Ekstrum said he was "distracted" and doubted his ability to focus on an emergency call. Ekstrum was part of a team trained to handle major medical emergencies. The unit was not part of the first group of emergency responders and was only dispatched to the scene about 90 minutes after the gunfire broke out, the newspaper reported. The Daily Star obtained the city memos that detailed the incident via a public records request. The newspaper reported that Williams wrote that Ekstrum "started to say something about how he had a much different political viewpoint than the rest of the crew and he was concerned."
^ That almost sounds criminal. You're a public servant, you don't get to "choose" what jobs you want to take. That would be like a soldier deserting his unit. Derelict.
Nice, esteban. Are there any available updates about her recovery? I haven't found anything, but haven't looked extensively yet either.
