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Congresswoman Shot

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jan 8, 2011.

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  1. vlaurelio

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    blood libel!!!!
     
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    Not that I know of..... but I am curious as to why the agency that was responsible for it directly and officially saying there is no link between Loughner and AR nor was he directed by AR is not good enough proof you?

    They also went on to say...
    That basically says it was one of many leads they were chasing at the time and given they have now admitted there was no link that lead turned out to be false not that there ever was a direct link in the first place. Heck the memo began with the words "“No direct connection" and then goes on to basically state they are going on an assumption/hunch.

    I don't think we will be hearing anything else about it anyhow anymore given this was just one of many leads being chased down by one of the many sub-agencies that is doing a lot of legwork for the FBI. The only difference here between any of the other busted leads that go unreported is that the existence of this one was made public by Fox News. With that said and again I don't think we will here nary a peep out of the FBI on this and they will let it go with that official statement by the Arizona Counter Terrorism Information Center who was responsible for the lead and follow up on said lead.

    With that said do you know of any credible news sites out there as of today that is still reporting this as a viable story? I haven't seen any. I am assuming you have since you still think this is fact.
     
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    I think I understand why Loughner has that crazy smile in that pic taken after the shootings. He kept talking about how the treasury makes one currency so why couldn't they make infinite currencies and said "wouldn't it be great to see your own face on coins?".

    So, that dumbass smug smile he has is his twisted way of posing for a pic to be put on his own currency...imo. He probably thinks they will make a currency after him now that he has done his evil deeds.
     
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    Not that I am aware of which is why I said earlier this could've happened to any politician and also why I'm not sure Loughner is a terrorist in the sense as someone trying to enact political change through violent means or representing a movement.
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    read this aloud 10 times

    The official adds that it wouldn't be DHS's place to reach any such conclusion in the first place, since the FBI is leading the investigation.
     
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    Michael Moynihan kicks some butt and tells it as it is.

    <script type='text/javascript' src='http://reason.tv/embed/video.php?id=1608'></script>
     
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    Yeah, it's pretty unlikely that armed and organized groups are going to take up arms against the government.

    It's far more likely that the poor and the lower middle class are finally gonna get fed up with being **** on for the past century and will just refuse to continue being exploited.
     
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    Hopefully the few people who made the claim are done making the claim that idiotic inflammatory rhetoric and tea party party politicians like Angle or Kaufman who advocated and guns and violence as a solution to political problems caused the tragedy in AZ.

    Hopefully, we can all eventually come to a place where we can condemn that kind of rhetoric, and that we continue exposing and talking about it.
     
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    Well be prepared to be disappointed if you are waiting for a FBI presser to address this and I am speaking from actual experience.

    Though I am retired I was a cop for over 30 years more than two decades of that as a homicide detective in NYC, DC and San Antoinio. As such and like many investigators have worked in task force with larger agencies on similar high profile crimes such as this "spree killing" by Loughner.

    What you saw with those quotes from the Arizona Counter Terrorism Information Center was basically the law enforcement communities version of a handslap. Basically you screwed up, you leaked it, you specifically fix it. Which they did by immediately accepting responsibility for their mistake and how they made the mistake. This does two fold it quashes the rumor and also pretty much absolves them from a defamation case.

    Again don't expect to hear anything more on it given the party for directly investigating the lead has said there is nothing to it. At this point the results have already been presented to the specific FBI head and ruled out thus making it possible for the Arizona Counter Terrorism Information Center to make the statements it did in that official capacity.
     
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    He doesn't want to be there... He'd rather be in "I'm right and jesus thinks you're evil" land.
     
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    Straight shooter means someone tells it like it is. It is a common idiom. It has nothing to do with violence. Just like Palin "targeting" districts with vulnerable Dems. Just like Obama saying they bring a knife, we bring a gun. The sad part is that you know this already. Why even keep bringing these up?
     
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    then why pull the ad?

    I keep bringing it up because the right seems to have developed some kind of hard on for gun imagery lately that's really creepy. But you are right, this is not the thread for that discussion.
     
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    you know those are bullet holes right?
     
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    non-violent, not straight bullet holes.
     
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    too bad you reject the idea that urging guns and violence as solutions to political problems is wrong.

    I'm sorry that suggesting inflammatory rhetoric and violence as a political solution is the wrong way to move forward is offensive to you. I hope you are able to eventually accept those ideas.


    The good news is that apparently even basso has come out strongly in favor of the idea that making gross exaggerations to attack people for political differences is wrong.

    It was a welcome move when he saw that Jamaes Taranto was guilty of the kinds of attacks that basso was defending Palin from. Hopefully you too will leave the fortress of insane partisan rhetoric, lies, and misrepresentation to join the rest of us.
     
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    bigtexxx = pizza pits guy.

    It's true, I just saw it in a public statement.
     

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