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Congress Asks Justice Department to Investigate Tejada

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by weslinder, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. Plowman

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    "Don't worry Miguel,you won't have to serve the full 6 months if you behave" - Marion Jones
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    When McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Schilling testified before congress, they were not sworn in.

    For whatever it's worth, Tejada is the "most distantly connected player" in 8 Degrees of Kirk Radomski
     
  3. yobod

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    Even if he did cut checks, I just don't see how that proves that he lied about anything. The entire time, he's been saying that he bought Vitamin B-12. The Mitchell Report can't prove usage, so as long as he keeps denying buying steroids, I just don't see how they can get him for anything. This whole thing is ridiculous now, and it's gotten completely out of hand. Before, I was on the fence about Bud Selig being a terrible commisioner, but now I'm 100% convinced of it. The guy is a gutless, rat-fink b*stard who had no problems with any of this 10-15 years ago when it was keeping his sport alive, but now that people are wringing their hands over Barry Bonds, he decides to get off his throne, and start cracking heads.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    .............and in basketball, IT IS TOTALLY IGNORED!
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Thought you'd find this interesting too, since you're a law-talkin-guy:

    [T]he Justice Department has mishandled the baseball steroid investigation in two important ways. First, the DoJ is prosecuting, or at least focusing on, the wrong people. The primary targets should be players, not suppliers. At the same time, the U.S. Department of Justice had no business feeding Mitchell, and through him the public, damaging information about players it lacks the evidence or the will to prosecute.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2182069
     
  6. Rocket G

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    And how exactly will Congress prove he lied?

    The checks do not prove he used. Congress is not a court of law.

    Unless he is indicted, somehow caught now, he'll be fine so long as he keeps his mouth shut.
     
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    "And , you can take a BS drug program and get your sentence reduced" - Mike "Killa" Vick .
     
  8. Drewdog

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    The only thing I really give a **** about is if he will be our starting SS on opening day. :(

    Anyone have a worst case / best case?
     
  9. Major

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    Which is the reason that Congress would ask the Justice Dept to investigate. The idea is that they suspect perjury, so they are going to seee if they can find out if there is evidence of it.
     
  10. Major

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    Best case = Yes, he is our starting SS.
    Worst case - No, he is not our starting SS.

    :D
     
  11. Plowman

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    Yeah,I would think they let Miguel out of his country club in a couple of months...worst case scenario.

    As to whether it ould be during the season.
    Well,as someone already mentioned,an indictment would have to come down.... then a trial or a settlement.


    Dude's really going to be good for us..We still need enough pitching to go along with the show.You know,I applaud Drayton cranking out this deal knowing what was coming....probably factored into the deal by all concerned though.I mean,who's pulling the strings? right?It's my opinion that he's going all the way and will pick up the necessary pitching soon.Teajda will just move over to third sooner or later.I see us getting more mileage out of him than some might think.This might sound strange,but other than the roids Tejada has always been committed to be in tip top shape....a pro,always has been...don't think he will break down.I'm a tradionalist with regard to our game,but I'm ready to win a World Series or two now because we're going to have to rebuild our minor league system(ahem)....a short but big window if Uncle finishes it off.
     
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    And?

    Unless they have a time machine & a place/time for when he was in the act of shooting D-bol into his ass, this will go noowhere.

    All Palmeiro said is that Tejada shot B-12 into his ass.

    Tejada has denied using roids and knowing if anyone else used.
    The government has some check copies with Tejada's name on them showing that he may have bought roids. That's it. They have no proof he used roids even if he did buy them. No proof he knew of others using. So no perjury.

    They have nothing in terms of evidence that could really hurt him now.
     
  13. Major

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    You do realize that the point of an investigation is to gather evidence, right? Of course they don't have the evidence now - if they did, Congress would have asked the DoJ to indict him, not investigate him.
     
  14. Drewdog

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    Why didnt I think of that!

    Im so tired of hearing about steroids.... I could really use a shot of B12 or Lie-duh-cane.
     
  15. mlwoo

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    They had cancelled checks on a lot of people. The only reason they are going after him is because he already was questioned on the Palmeiro case, and it would be much easier to prove he knew about steroids in baseball and catch him lying, than actually proving he used.
     
  16. Rocket G

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    Gee, thanks for pointing that out. :rolleyes:

    My point is that all DoJ can do beyond the Mitchell investigators is to find & pressure some McNamee-type into saying he injected Tejada/saw him inject/"knew" he knew about others roiding.

    That's it. Then they take that flimsy evidence plus the checks and try to prove that he lied.

    It would be mind boggling if Congress & the DoJ did that. Mind boggling and simply ****ing insane.
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    Or they could uncover evidence that isn't aware to anyone right now. As commonly happens in investigations.
     
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    "Commonly?" Investigations turn up absolutely nothing just as "commonly" as they turn up something.

    This would be an investigation following an investigation.

    If there had not already been an investigation done - and that's what Senator Mitchell conducted, an investigation - then, yes, possible.

    Again, unless they produce video of him sticking a needle of verified roids in his ass, some guy willing to vouch that he helped or saw Tejada stick a needle full of verifiied roids in his ass, or some statement by Tejada to the tune of "I know my fellow players are roiding," then they can't get him on perjury.

    This whole thing is a silly waste of time. We're talking about Congress though, so I really shouldn't be surprised at their willingness to waste our money for some potential political capital in an election year.

    Our national education system is in the gutter, we're stuck in a war in Iraq with no end in sight, the dollar is in the toilet and the economy may not be far behind, etc, etc, yet Congress wants to single out a handful of players in just one of the 4 major American sports and try to nail them to the wall for sticking a chemical that may/may not have improved their performance into their own freaking bodies.

    Where's the puking smiley when you need it?
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    I'm not aruging whether or not they should investigate Tejada, just that an investigation could turn up more damning evidence than what we know now.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    And Henry Waxman in particular, who's not shy about calling for investigations of any & every thing.

    "I suggest a lengthy & inefficient search, at the taxpayers' expense."

    "I wish there was an easier way."

    They went through this exact thing with Palmeiro following his testimony & testipositivity, nothing happened. Nothing will happen here. It's all for show.
     

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