Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama II!

You do know that person of the year doesn't mean the most popular, nicest or even the most accomplished person but the one who was in the news most. This is why I thought naming Giuliani in 2001 was such a cop out as it should've been Bin Ladin according to Time's own standards.

 

You thought that was close?

 

Wasnt the word landslide used in a lot of newscasts?

 

Yeah what was the final popular tally? 53% to Obama? That's close, brah

 

What was the electoral tally? For that matter what was the tally in the last two presidential elections? You did also know that Obama got more total votes than any Democrat ever and got a larger percentage of the vote than any Democrat than since LBJ.

Let me ask you one more thing. Did you think the 1988 election was close?

 

Really? Let's gander at past elections

2008: Barack Obama, 52.9%, 365 electoral votes - John McCain, 45.7%, 173 electoral votes.
2004: George W. Bush, 50.7&, 286 electoral votes - John Kerry, 48.3%, 251 electoral votes.
2000: George W. Bush, 47.9%, 271 electoral votes - Al Gore, 48.4%, 266 electoral votes.
1996: Bill Clinton, 49.2%, 379 electoral votes - Bob Dole, 40.7%, 159 electoral votes - Ross Perot, 8.4%, 0 electoral votes
1992: Bill Clinton, 43%, 370 electoral votes - George H.W. Bush, 37.7%, 168 electoral votes - Ross Perot, 18.9%, 0 electoral votes
1988: George H.W. Bush, 53.4%, 426 electoral votes - Michael Dukakis, 45.6%, 111 electoral votes
1984: Ronald Reagan, 58.8%, 525 electoral votes - Walter Mondale, 40.6%, 13 electoral votes
1980: Ronald Reagan, 50.7%, 489 electoral votes - Jimmy Carter, 41%, 49 electoral votes - John Anderson, 6.6%, 0 electoral votes
1976: Jimmy Carter, 50.1%, 297 electoral votes - Gerald Ford, 48%, 240 electoral votes
1972: Richard Nixon, 60.7%, 520 electoral votes - George McGovern, 37.5%, 17 electoral votes
1968: Richard Nixon, 43.4%, 301 electoral votes - Hubert Humphrey, 42.7%, 191 electoral votes - George Wallace, 13.5%, 46 electoral votes
1964: Lyndon Johnson, 61.1%, 486 electoral votes - Barry Goldwater, 38.5%, 52 electoral votes
1960: John F. Kennedy, 49.7%, 303 electoral votes - Richard Nixon, 49.6%, 219 electoral votes

So what this tells us is that in presidential elections, save for a few cases, the popular vote is always closer than it is a blowout. LBJ, Nixon, and Reagan are the only presidents with clear popular vote blowouts. Barack Obama received the highest popular vote percentage for any Democrat sine LBJ and the first majority since Jimmy Carter. Republicans haven't had an electoral "blowout" since 1984.

 

You can argue until you're blue in the face, but trying to convince me that 52.9% is a blowout, is, as your name implies.....dumb

Sorry, try harder

 

Hmm, Reagan only won 50% in his first term.

 

I wasn't arguing that it was a blowout with a popular vote, brah. My point is that yes, the popular vote was close, but the electoral college vote was indeed a blowout.

And yes, having spent time in the D&D, I'm well aware the attempting any amount of argument with you, basso, or T_J amounts to a blue face. Which is probably why I don't try often.

 

You're a child.

 

Lol - cute

I can tell you that 52.9% is not a blowout.

 

No it's not a blowout. It was the most solid win, more than Reagan's first term.

 

how many democrats were elected president between carter and Obama?

 

Well, at least they gave the award to the more evil person that year, the one who was responsible for more American deaths.

 

I'll play a little. There was nothing about a blowout. You basically posted that Obama was so bad that he made the election closer than many thought. dumbarton illustrated how it was the largest popular and electoral victory in 20 years. Only crazies would have really expected anything bigger.

 

Reagan won by 10% vs. 7% for Obama. Not really a more solid win. HW is the only one to get a higher percentage of popular votes in getting elected to their first term. I think that says more than anything else.

 

I think it's fun seeing wingnuts rationalize away Obama's landslide in order to deflect attention away from the complete and utter failure of Republican party rule.

SHAMBLES

 

You really think that Giuliani is more evil than Bin Ladin?

 

GH Bush beat Dukakis by about 7% and that was considered a landslide.

 

I believe he contributed to more deaths regarding 9/11 than did Bin Laden.