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  1. deb4rockets

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    So if you don't think that people can't turn gay or trans because of what someone says do you agree with people calling those who want to treat them equally, and with respect, and feel comfortable coming out, do you agree with calling tose people child groomers and pedophiles like so many in the GOP do?

    What does woke mean to you? You use it like a put down on just about every post you make when disagreeing with Democratic policies of every subject? You say it stems from racism, but do you consider woke people racists?
     
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    This is such a convoluted and loaded question. What I can say is that nobody should be discriminated against. And just because someone wants people to be treated equally, that obviously doesn't make them a groomer. But some of the activism that happens inside and outside of schools goes way, way beyond that.

    I recommend this interview:

    https://www.52-insights.com/intervi...ancel-culture-and-wokeism-black-lives-matter/
     
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    Not reading your far right BS. You use the term woke too much. I know your types. I have a black friend. I have a gay friend. I'm not a racist or a bigot but I support those GOP policies stemming from bigotry and racism.
     
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    Do you know what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali went through in her life? She was a victim of female genital mutilation based on Islamic practices, one of her friends got murdered because he spoke up against political Islam...and so on.

    Very bad look for you to dismiss her as "far right". Pretty much the definition of close-mindedness.

    This tweet is in German, but maybe you understand it anyway.



    Ayaan is on the left. You are on the right.
     
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    She absolutely is far right. Someone can start off with good intentions from suffering horrible cruelty and then find the grifter scene. Unfortunately she did.

    Here's a game you can play. Find a opinion of hers that diverges from Ben Shapiro.
     
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    I didn't read it, and I'm not far right like you, regardless of what you post. You saying Americans practice female mutilation based on some belief? I don't get your point. Oh wait, you can't possibly be trying to say this is the same as some teen wanting a sex change can you? Even for you, that's a sick comparison.
     
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    Fixed it for you.

    She is infinitely smarter and more authentic than you.

    Deep in your heart you know she is right. And at some point you were enlightened. But you have chosen to fall back into the cult. I think I understand, it's because you are fighting an inner conflict of loyalty vs. reason and intelligence - you are not stupid, but you do not want to dishonor your heritage. It's ok.
     
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    You see, that's one of the differences between you and me. I actually do read stuff I think I will disagree with. I recommend it to you.
     
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    I don't think you do. Whenever you counter arguments you never address the arguments. You restate your premise.
     
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    I finished my comment. Like you, I don't believe in forcing someone to be mutilated against their will.
     
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    That's because I am never wrong :p.
     
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    What about the rest of my comment from my previous post? Are you @AroundTheWorld ?
     
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    It's like you can acknowledge that someone had a horrible experience and their original premise for their activism was in good faith and at the same time believe eventually they strayed from that original activism.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Horrible tragedy.

    What's funny though is nothing in her bio somehow magically justifies her being a mouth piece for Trump.
     
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    Please tell me you aren't trying to compare forced mutilation on a culture as the same thing as some teen wanting a sex change. Now that is a sick comparison even for you if that's what you are getting at. You trying to say parents who wanted a girl are cutting off their son's penis and getting him breast implants against his will?
     
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    What does fgm activism have to do with vigorously supporting Donald Trump?
     
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    Huh. I'm saying that you can call Ali a right winger today and still acknowledge she started off in a sincere manner over a sincere cause.
     
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    She is an incredibly impressive woman, and her husband Niall Ferguson is one of the smartest people I have met as well.
     

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