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Congratulations to Gov DeSantis

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  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Why Republicans want corporations to end all criticism of their war on voting rights

     
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    I think his top priority should be something much more important than that. Maybe start with stricter gun requirements, addressing the homeless problem, addressing our lack of help and support for the mentally ill, more funding for our schools, and support for all the Texans who can't afford health care.

    I'd say that takes priority over this fake fear crap.
     
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    Hmmm, the censure and cancel culture continues. His warning huh? Go figure.
    Keep those donations coming though.

    My warning to corporate America is to stay out of politics,” the very same McConnell, now the Senate minority leader, told reporters Tuesday, which he’d first phrased as “advice” in a speech on Monday in Kentucky. He then added, “I’m not talking about political contributions....”
     
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    They are all in on the culture war because they see it as the area they can win. It’s easier to play on people’s fear and grievances than it is to do the hard work of addressing other problems.
     
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    wrong thread :D
     
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    Probably accidentally used the wrong account.
     
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...is-isn-t-a-trump-clone-he-s-just-a-republican

    Ron DeSantis Isn’t a Trump Clone. He’s Just a Republican.

    Liberal critics falsely label the Florida governor Trumpy, but that’s just a crowd-pleasing way to deplore the things they dislike about most GOP politicians.

    If Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is the Republican presidential nominee in 2024, it’s already obvious what one of the main Democratic lines of attack will be: He’s just like Donald Trump, only worse.

    “He increasingly acts like his role model, the tyrannical Donald Trump,” the Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale editorialized last year. Historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat wrote at CNN’s website that he has a “mini-Trump brand” (and also reminds her a bit of Mussolini). Molly Jong-Fast, in a newsletter for The Atlantic, concluded her tour of press clips about the governor with this conclusion: “DeSantis may prove to be the Trojan Trump who finally brings down American democracy.”

    What makes DeSantis, or any other Republican, “too Trumpy”? The critics offer a wide variety of answers. Jong-Fast is willing to put the label on anyone who opposes either mask mandates in schools or abortion. Charlie Sykes, in the Bulwark, claims that DeSantis is hostile to civil liberties, quoting a report that he signed a bill that “grants civil immunity to people who decide to drive their cars into protesters who are blocking a road.”

    The Guardian quotes an academic likening DeSantis to Trump because both have an “in-your-face style.” Thomas Edsall conducted an informal survey for a New York Times column on DeSantis as “the Man Out-Trumping Trump.” Respondents cited his eagerness to “own the libs” (Democratic strategist Paul Begala), his “right-wing agenda” (Democratic pollster Geoff Garin), and his being “a creature of power” (another academic). An earlier Times article said his combative relations with the press are modeled on Trump’s.

    Many of these criticisms apply to nearly all Republicans, including pre-Trump and anti-Trump ones. Some of them apply to Democrats, too: Aren’t all politicians “creatures of power”? Other resemblances are real but faint. There’s a difference between calling out a reporter for repeating a slogan of his opponents, as DeSantis recently did, and dismissing critical or inconvenient coverage as “fake news,” which was Trump’s M.O.

    Some of the charges are simply false. Floridians who drive into protesters will not have civil immunity even if judges let that DeSantis-signed bill go into effect. They have the ability to raise a defense in court if, for example, they inflicted damage because a violent public disturbance was using the threat of force to impede their safe movement.

    Edsall concedes that DeSantis lacks Trump’s “impulsiveness and preference for chaos,” but says that just makes him a more fearsome opponent for liberals. In important respects, though, that means the country should have less to fear from him.

    Consider some of the lowlights of Trump’s presidency. DeSantis opposed Trump’s policy of mass family separation. He has nothing like Trump’s record of praising dictators. And while DeSantis has not been a profile in courage in calling out Trump’s lie that he won the 2020 election, he also has not broadcast that lie himself.


    The accusation that DeSantis is an enemy of democracy rests heavily on exaggerated claims about an election law he signed; a “sweeping voter suppression law,” the liberal Brennan Center calls it. It’s true that the law includes new restrictions, such as requiring that county employees oversee ballot drop-boxes. But it’s also true that the law leaves Floridians with greater ballot access, in key respects, than a lot of states run by Democrats. Florida has no-excuse absentee voting, unlike Delaware and New York.

    Finally, there’s the matter of DeSantis’s lib-owning style. He is obviously happy to annoy liberals for no reason other than pleasing conservatives, as when he smirked his way through a bill-signing in Brandon, Florida. But it’s absurd to take DeSantis to illustrate that Republicans now think smiting the left “matters more than achieving policy objectives,” as one journalist put it.
    Even the “culture-war” legislation DeSantis has backed, regulating classroom instruction on sexual orientation and on race relations, has been about more than upsetting his political opponents. Agree or disagree with those bills, they are a response to concerns some parents have about contemporary educational trends. And his administration has an extensive policy record beyond those issues. He has cut taxes, expanded school choice, spent money on protecting the Everglades and legalized medical mar1juana.

    It's not a record that appeals to most Democrats, of course, and they are entitled to make their case against both the substance and the style of DeSantis. They may find, though, that the Trump-clone attack falls flat — and that not every voter who disliked Trump disliked him for the same reasons they do.
     
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    desantis is trump-lite. heck... trump just praised desantis' Don't Say Gay bill...

    DeSantis Is Trump 2.0
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/opinion/desantis-trump-republican-party.html

    Ron DeSantis follows the Trump playbook ahead of 2024
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/ron-desantis-trump-2024-president-crime-cities/index.html

    ‘We Want People That Are Going to Fight the Left,’ Says the Man Out-Trumping Trump
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/opinion/ron-desantis-is-gambling-on-out-trumping-trump.html

    DeSantis’s Threats to Disney Is What Post-Trump Authoritarianism Looks Like
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...to-disney-is-post-trump-authoritarianism.html
     
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    I like DeSantis. He seems like a good man. He's not like, e.g., Cruz.
     
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    Name instances when desantis criticized a trump statement or a trump position...
    Perhaps you and/or the author could present statements by desantis criticizing trump or disagreeing with a trump position. The closest he came was saying he wouldn't have shut down the economy early on in the COVID pandemic (strange... did trump shut down the economy?) and before that one of his spokesmen (but not desantis) disagreed with trump statements about Puerto Rico (desantis needs the Puerto Rican vote in FL).
     
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    Heh... now trumpsters will really be happy... a dynamic duo... and desantis seems like just the guy that would backstab pence to take the VP position.

    Republicans Want Ron DeSantis as Donald Trump's 2024 Running Mate: Poll
    https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-donald-trump-vice-president-mike-pence-2024-poll-1691480
     
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    Clearly you didn't bother to even skim the article. I even bolded it for you.
     
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    LOL... the best you could say was : (1) he hasn't praised dictators (course, he is a governor so speaking about foreign affairs isn't likely) and (2) he didn't publicly say the election was stolen from trump (but he didn't deny it either). Wow... I feel so much better about desantis, don't you?

    But lets take a look at what desantis has said:

    Ron DeSantis says if Stacey Abrams wins election it will create a Florida-Georgia 'cold war'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ron-desantis-stacey-abrams-wins-election-florida-georgia-cold-war


    RON DESANTIS IS ON TRACK TO CREATING THE FIRST-EVER STATE ELECTION FRAUD POLICE FORCE
    Despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud, the state’s Republican–controlled legislature passed a bill that would establish a state election-crimes agency with a $2.5 million budget.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/ron-desantis-election-fraud-police
     
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    And more... here's a bill he supports...

    https://www.heraldtribune.com/story...ov-ron-desantis-unveiled-new-bill/9290038002/
     
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    Pence and Trump have no love for each other. Why would you think Pence is entitled to VP.

    Trump/DeSantis is a high probability ticket.
     
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    I hope DeSantis doesn't do that.

    DeSantis and a moderate female Republican with a strong economic background, perhaps of a minority background, all backed by Elon Musk...I'd love that.
     
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    Hmm... she was valedictorian of her high school class, graduated with highest honors with a bachelors in political science from Emory College. Was a Harry S Truman scholar at University of Texas where she received her Masters in Public Policy. And received her JD from Yale. Nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Named to Time Magazine Most Influential 100.

    I wonder what basis you use to consider her an idiot... hmm?
     
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