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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Speaking of Florida today...

     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Well, since we are big fans of using anecdotal tweets for generalizing as many people as possible I'll assume these 24 idiots are representative of every republican and everyone supporting republicans.

    Same logic you use with this transpanic stuff so its only fair.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    No, not the same logic at all.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    No?

    So we can agree this is anecdotal then and shouldn't be applied to an entire community then?
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    No we cannot. The entire goal of these events is to indoctrinate young children with sexualized ideology. These events are unacceptable.

    Transgender adults should be free to make their own decisions for themselves, and live their lives the way they please.

    But leave the children alone.

    The fact that you guys defend this ideological initiative that started in 2015 shows how insanely rotten your moral compass has become.
     
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  6. JayGoogle

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    A few things here.

    1. Men that do drag are not trans, they can be, but most are just men that enjoy cosplaying as women. I must stress this every time its brought up.

    2. Another thing. I didn't know that there was an initiative by drag or trans people or some group to indoctrinate young children with sexualized ideology? Do you have a source for that? You seem to care a lot about this but I've seen you make no posts towards beauty pageants that put little girls in bikinis and dresses and judge their 'beauty'. Where are all the posts about that issue? Odd that none of these people you link talk about that.

    3. You were just going on earlier about how adults should have the only say in what morals they teach their children so be consistent. These adults decided to take their children to whatever that was, be consistent with that and respect that. Adults have the only say in the morals they teach their children so that means all you should do is respect that and disagree.

    Well, I'd be against this group or organization that has some nefarious goal to indoctrinate children into a sexualized ideology (that started in 2015) but I've seen 0 proof that it exists. If you can prove it then please do.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    1) I don't care, makes no difference to my assessment

    3) Nope, I said that children cannot consent to certain things, and there are things to which parents cannot consent for their children (like having sex, doing drugs and alcohol, etc). Don't make up things I supposedly said.

    2) and your last paragraph: https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-real-story-behind-drag-queen-story-hour

    "To disrupt this dynamic, the authors propose a new teaching method, “drag pedagogy,” as a way of stimulating the “queer imagination,” teaching kids “how to live queerly,” and “bringing queer ways of knowing and being into the education of young children.” As Kornstein and Keenan explain, this is an intellectual and political project that requires drag queens and activists to work toward undermining traditional notions of sexuality, replacing the biological family with the ideological family, and arousing transgressive sexual desires in young children. “Building in part from queer theory and trans studies, queer and trans pedagogies seek to actively destabilize the normative function of schooling through transformative education,” they write. “This is a fundamentally different orientation than movements towards the inclusion or assimilation of LGBT people into the existing structures of school and society.”

    For the drag pedagogists, the traditional life path—growing up, getting married, working 40 hours a week, and raising a family—is an oppressive bourgeois norm that must be deconstructed and subverted. As the drag queens take the stage in their sexually suggestive costumes, Kornstein and Keenan argue, their task is to disrupt the “binary between womanhood and manhood,” seed the room with “gender-transgressive themes,” and break the “reproductive futurity” of the “nuclear family” and the “sexually monogamous marriage”—all of which are considered mechanisms of heterosexual, capitalist oppression. The books selected in many Drag Queen Story Hour performances—Cinderelliot, If You’re a Drag Queen and You Know It, The Gender Wheel, Bye Bye, Binary, and They, She, He, Easy as ABC—promote this basic narrative. Though Drag Queen Story Hour events are often billed as “family-friendly,” Kornstein and Keenan explain that this is a form of code: “It may be that DQSH is ‘family friendly,’ in the sense that it is accessible and inviting to families with children, but it is less a sanitizing force than it is a preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship. Here, DQSH is ‘family friendly’ in the sense of ‘family’ as an old-school queer code to identify and connect with other queers on the street.” That is, the goal is not to reinforce the biological family but to facilitate the child’s transition into the ideological family."
     
  8. astros123

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    What is your obsession with trans issues ? Does it consume your mind all day?
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    nope

    just enough to educate some of you ignoramuses
     
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    You realize most people on the left don't give a **** about the topic. You folks on the right obsess over it more than anyone on the left does in real life.

    Look at the bigex thread which turned into a trans thread. You folks are incapable of talking facts and policies. Always conspiracies
     
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    Judging by the responses of the either incredibly naive or incredibly evil leftists here who defend this crap, some do care.
     
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    Guarantee you 99% of folks in real life genuinely don't give a ****. Go to a democratic grassroot event or some other event and nobody talks about trans bs. You folks on the right obsess over it more than anyone else.

    I go to fundraisers all the time and literally nobody gives a ****.
     
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    Well, it does get tiring correcting this. You don't care but I bet the next time it comes up you'll equate doing drag to being trans when they are entirely different things.

    Don't call people 'ignoramuses' when you seem very ignorant about this topic.

    Ok. So you didn't say it. Moving on.

    This is an opinion piece that makes pretty large assumptions. I wonder if you'd ask that performer if he knows who Butler or Rubin or whoever is writing these books are.

    Actually this is no different than anything Kendi writes about race, large assumptions about large groups of people and imagining some grand conspiracy with little to no proof.

    You claimed there was an 'initiative' which implies some grander strategy to sexualize kids.

    BTW, you still don't seem to care about beauty pageants. I guess you need people to get outraged for you before you can get outraged about that or is sexualizing children okay as long as it is heteronormative? Seems Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion can win Kids Choice Awards all while twerking in every video they are in.
     
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    Please keep calling people:

    EVIL

    It's a great look for you.
     
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    I don't understand who these people interact with. Most people I know who are democrats vote d because of healthcare, immigration and higher taxes on corporations. I don't understand their obsession over trans issues? Who cares seriously?
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Well we know this is true because Trans issues didn't become a thing until very recently. The left didn't bring it up. 2015 no one cared about this. Drag has existed since the invention of the stage basically.

    But the current right wing party needs to find some group of people to target to flare up emotions and get people off of actually important issues like health care and the massively increasing gap between the rich and the poor.
     
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    No, brazen ideologues and activists started going after children in 2015. Nobody cared/cares about drag queens as long as only adults are involved. But keep blaming "the current right wing party".

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_Queen_Story_Hour
     
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    Yes.

    And if you don't see it, your moral compass is rotten. If you think this "drag queen story hour" crap is not evil, you are at best naive.
     
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