CONFIRMED: Sergio Llull signs six-year extension with Real Madrid

Right. I didnt mean save the Rockets salary cap space, I meant the opposite team that was trading for that asset.(un-signed draft pick)

 

I'm not sure I'm answering your question, but the Rockets received the Bobcats 2nd rounder from the Celtics, because that was what is was going to take to get a deal done. The Celtics technically not only could have traded their own 2nd rounder instead, but they could have put a heavy protection on it. Obviously that wasn't enough incentive for the Rockets to make the deal.

In salary dump deals teams usually either send the draft rights to some guy that they know will never play in the NBA or they send a top-55 protected second rounder, which is as highly as a 2nd rounder can be protected.
Usually it's quite unlikely that those picks end up in the 56-60 range, nevermind that pick having close to zero value anyway if it did end up in the 56-60 range.

So unless you trade away all your second rounders and thus don't have any trade throw-ins left at all, it really doesn't matter if you owe the rights to some 'useless' guy.

That said, I don't see Llull being throw in as that type of filler any time soon, as like Bima said the Rockets have the rights to some lesser players who I'm quite certain would be traded first.

 

This was the full trade:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8184923/boston-celtics-acquire-courtney-lee-sign-trade-deal

All teams had to be within the CBA salary rules in order to trade for the player. Since Courtney Lee did a sign and trade, as long as the salaries that were included already in the trade add up to the rules, the Rockets could do that.

Ideally, any player that the NBA team has rights to could be useful either in trade or developing overseas to bring over later. This is why more international players tend to get picked in the 2nd round because contracts are not guaranteed.

 

Oh ok, but it still works both ways. Until that player signs a NBA contract, it wouldn't count against the cap because there's no existing contract to pay.

 

Right, I get that. The point, or question, is in the most simplest form-

Can having Euro-stash players who will not come to the NBA in their career in your back pocket to include in trades actually SAVE you other assets like draft picks in the long run to teams that might not care either way. They just might want to shed salary or dump a player?

 

Only seen games and highlights online, but I was thinking he would be a guy that could play with either Lin or Lamb on the court and provide a solid 30 mpg at the two guard spots. Basically, a rotational player playing starter minutes. So he isn't like losing a star, but he is a decent loss provided he doesn't have a reasonable buyout.

 

Yes. But as HMMMHMM already answered, the only thing it would really be saving that team is having to give up a top-55 protected pick that might not be owed for many years into the future.

To use a hypothetical, let's say the Rockets were receiving a player from another team this month in a straight-up salary dump who the Rockets could fit under their cap without having to send out any salary. The other team does not need anything of value in return, as dumping that player's salary was its primary goal in the trade. That trade would require consideration of some sort, though. In this instance, the Rockets would either trade back a top-55 protected second round pick in 2019 or the draft rights to an overseas player. As you can see, the "pick" that the Rockets would save by instead trading back an overseas player is not very valuable.

With the Rockets still holding draft rights to guys like Axel Hervelle, Brad Newley and Maarty Leunen, there is no need for them to trade away the draft rights to a player who might actually play for Houston one day (such as Sergio Llull or Furkan Aldemir).

 

FUACJKJAGLKJA%#@#%@#% NOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHHHYYYYY!!!! ?????
There goes the Rockets chances of being Championship contenders!! Sergio Llull is not coming here.!!!

Seriously.. who really cares?

 

No one likes being picked last on the playground.

Maybe we "lucked out" with the Gasol trade being vetoed, Bosh Spice choosing Miami, Nene signing with Denver, etc. but no one likes rejection and this is another form of flat out rejection.

Pau nearly cried when traded, Chris Bosh took Morey's iPad and FaceTime'd D Wade with it and now Llull chooses to make a dynasty in Europe instead of trying his hand at the NBA. You can say all these guys had good reasons to go where they went, but I look at it as they didn't want to come to Houston beneath all of it.

Llull doesn't sign the extension if LA Lakers have his rights and it's that fact that will make true Rockets fans bitter, sour, and malcontent.

For the record, I'm bitter, sour, and malcontent.

Anyone know the buyout on this contract? Did he even bother to negotiate one in case he has a change of heart?

 

Morey gets used as leverage again.

Spoiler

/s

 

damn that sucks, wonder if we could still get a late 2nd round for him?

 

Trade him to the bobcats !

 

Darkest day of the Houston Rockets since Yao Ming broke his leg in that LA playoff game.

 

You should be a politician! It's not a fact just because you say it is.

 

He didn't want to come to the NBA because he doesn't want to be exposed by great players...

 

Either that, or somebody put a large amount of money in front of him and he said, "Yes". There is a good chance that there is a buyout. With or without a buyout, it makes sense for Real Madrid. Without it, they get Llull. With it, they are guaranteed free money in case Rockets try to wait until after his contract. For Llull, he is set for a lifetime either way even if he gets hurt.

 

What a sissy. **** Sergio Llull.

 

Man I've been saying this for over a year. This isn't his first extension since he got drafted and despite some people being high on him, I've come to see he'd prefer to be a above average sized fish in a smaller pond then gamble on being small one in the ocean.

The sad thing is that we have more then 5 pages on a backup player that never once did anything for the organization and people are still trying to rationalize it like he 'might' come over and that it would be a good thing.

 

Did he enter the draft? Why enter the draft if he doesn't want to play in the NBA?

Genuine question.

 

Em, because you're entered automatically at age 22, if you're a registered basketball player.