I want to trust Morey but he just has become so hyped and I don't think he has completely lived up to it. Brooks and Landry were good picks but I just feel he may be over-thinking things. The off-season is young so I will wait for a decision until then but this has got to be one of the worst off-seasons in a long time for the Rockets if not ever. #1- Yao needs surgery. #2 - Ron signs with the Fakers #3 - We try to grab a C and he signs with a division rival #4 - We are only get joke offers for T-MAC it seems. #5 - We were unable to get a spot into the lottery to grab Rubio. (considering we traded the 8th pick for Battier) And July just started. Now Morey is being proactive but I feel he should not have lowballed Artest if he was going to offer anything. I also wish we would have done a S&T.
No one here is ever going to agree with me but I'm sticking to my guns. The goal of $Ball is to NOT over pay for talent. When 26 other teams have cap space...and are willing to spend...all that's left for the $Ball to pick up is role players approximately equivalent to what is already on the roster. At least they'll be a bargain.
What, is Morey supposed to heal Yao's foot now with his computer skills? Please, I don't regret the trade at all.
In Morey should we still trust as before? I am really confused about Morey's intention right now. It seems that he will be very likely to rebulid this team considering all trade rumours we've heard thus far. Yes, we will lose Yao for the next whole season, but why we have to blow up this great team just because of Yao's injury. You have know, we still have a quite valuable trade asset Mcgrady. Trade TMac for a decent start center would be very difficult for Morey? (btw, Gortat is just a decent role player in my opion) I'm really get mad recently about all the stuff like trading Battier for Ariza, letting Ron go to Los, giving up resigning with Von, and so forth. I really have no idea whether "In Morey should we still trust as before" ?
Every time I begin to wonder if Morey's refusal to overpay for players is too cautious, I say the following chant: "Motaylor moochiekato" Makes me feel instantly better.
I've been telling myself to wait it out but I'm starting to get a bit worried too. The hell if I want to tank it out.
Because we cannot win the championship without Yao Ming. We cannot win the championship without Tracy McGrady. We cannot win the champion without Ron Artest. We needed all three of these players to play together to give the Lakers a run for their money. And the ultimate goal for any NBA team is to win the title, so why try for anything else?
omg another thread complaining and moaning because someone left. LOCK IT UP!!!!!! You guys need to understand what a business is.
It would be wise to reserve judgment of Morey's moves or lack thereof until the conclusion of the matter. We are not privy to all of the intelligence.
HELL YEA in Morey we should TRUST!! He is the best GM we have in this town and just because he hasnt gone out and made a drastic move doesnt mean he is slacking. Atleast give him the offseason to see what he does please! If we get Ariza then its only the beginning of a number of moves to come.
more threads... more and more threads with nearly identical topics to existing threads... that'll ease the pain
I guess we'll see won't we? But if we took steps 2 years ago to start heading into 2010 Free Agency as major players, then it seems rather dull (to me) to suddenly make a splash for the sake of making one - particularly when it's for someone who isn't a star. Ron was great value and added to the toughness we already had. But I don't think he can carry a team on his own (in fact I know it) - and he's not the "star" that's going to carry us in the regular season. Locking him up for mulitple years at even $6million per would leave us in a pretty ugly situation next summer. Because if we signed him it would be because we want to "win now" and so we'd spend the full MLE - let's assume we do really well and get someone for 2 years at full MLE. Suddenly our relevancy in 2010 free agency is null and void - and for what? Ron Artest and someone like Gortat? If the team is going to change directions, it WILL NOT happen this off-season. It'll happen next summer. If we fail to get a major star next summer that's when it's really panic time! It means we're lottery hunting for a star for a few years...
I disagree completely. The risk was completely worth it. Heck, we made it out of the first round for the first time in years and took LA, the eventual champs, to 7 games WITH our two best players on the sidelines. We had a great season and Artest was big part of reason why.
Of course. It's not his fault that our 2 max players can't remain healthy on the court. He has had little wiggle room to work with and has done tremendous so far. We are in position to get dwade. He is my number 1 option outside Lebron, which is not going to happen.
I think there seems to be two schools of thought on Morey: 1) He's been terrible this off-season and he's missed the boat on several opportunities 2) He's smarter than us and has something up his sleeve that will make us feel all better in the end. Personally, I don't think DM falls into either category. I think the first group of people are idiots, and the second group are blinded by their bias. I don't think Morey's to blame for other teams not wanting to deal, and I don't think we're magically going to have Rip Hamilton or Amare tomorrow. I think by now, everyone understands Morey's approach: Don't overpay for guys you don't think are worth that kind of money. Gortat was courted by the Rockets, but reportedly not offered our full MLE. Morey knew a price in mind for Gortat, and wasn't going to go over that because of pressure from other team's bids. Smart. The worse thing a franchise can do, IMO, is to start feeling pressure to overpay for free agents. Prior to the draft, Morey knew both Yao and Tmac's situations were bleak, to say the least. He attempted to put together a package to move up and get Rubio - nothing the Rockets had was good enough for Minny to bite. Some fans think it's Morey's fault that a deal wasn't made - they fall into the first group. Minnesota had no need for Brooks (drafted two pgs, with the only one playing for them being just as tall as AB) or Landry (Kevin Love? Al Jefferson? Why do they need a backup 4?). Morey tried to move up, but Minnesota wasn't biting. So what did he do? Nothing. Smart. With the impending news of Yao's injury, most people would feel pressured to parlay Tmac into something useful. Everyone here was hoping for an Amare or Rip Hamilton trade; and we know Morey has been after Amare since the trading deadline last year. Morey has tried to acquire Amare - the Suns haven't liked anything the Rockets have enough to deal him. Once again, this isn't Morey's fault. What rumors did you hear about a Tmac deal? Tmac for Vince Carter: most likely a lateral move that saddles us with a contract that extends two years past McGradys. Vince is past his prime and only getting older. With the potential career threatening injury news of Yao, it'd be stupid for the Rockets to lock themselves into a massive contract like Carter's for the sake of being competitive. (The Cat - good thread, agree 100%) Tmac for Curry/Mobley: pointless. Curry is awful, Mobley is retired and an expiring contract just like Tmac. This doesn't make us any better, so what's the point of doing the deal? Tmac for Dalembert: no comment necessary. Another horrible trade that doesn't help us anymore than if we had kept Tmac. Realistically, aside from Amare, I haven't heard of any Tmac trade rumors that would make us a better team, both in the present and future. If we can't land a budding star or multiple young players/picks, I'd be content to just let his contract expire. When the trading deadline comes, teams might be more inclined to dismantle for 2010 free agent class. Morey's plan was to prey on the teams having financial trouble in order to land this team the extra star power it needs to get to the next level. Then the Yao injury happens, and it completely changes everything. I'm glad we let Artest walk - like Carter, he's past his prime and only getting older/slower. Committing multiple years of high salary to a guy like that just isn't smart. I said this in another thread, but I think Morey's plan is to collect as many valuable assets as he can. When he bought Sergio Llull, he said in his comments that they felt he was a "good asset to have." His pursuit of Ariza also strikes me as an "asset move". The MLE is not an expensive contract, especially not for a 24 year old with talent, athleticism, and length. Ariza on a MLE deal, IMO, would be more valuable to a playoff team than a Ron Artest would. (I guess LAL thought differently.) Artest is getting worse each year, whereas Ariza is only getting better. I hope we get Ariza, if only to be able to use in a trade down the line. Young players with talent on cheap contracts: Aaron Brooks Kyle Lowry Carl Landry Trevor Ariza Sergio Llull (I included Llull and not Buddinger/Taylor because they'll get a chance to prove themselves this year, whereas Llull can retain his value as a valuable prospect in Europe) Veterans that can put a playoff team over the top: Shane Battier Luis Scola Expiring contracts Tracy McGrady Brian Cook Bottom line, the Rockets do have some assets that can be used in trades. However, it would be unwise to panic and trade any of the players above (ok, maybe Brian Cook) without getting something in return that has the Rockets future in mind. We have Tmac coming off the books, potentially Yao a season later. We've had to shift from potential contender to realizing that the nucleus we have isn't good enough. But Morey has done a good job, IMO, collecting these assets to use in a later trade. Worst case scenario this season: The Rockets suck and are a lottery team. Now we have Tmac off the books to go along with a lottery pick. Next year's draft is supposed to be a lot stronger than this years - which we were unable to trade into the top 5 for Rubio for. Would Minny do our lottery pick next year for Rubio? Would they have turned down a package deal with us this year if we had a lottery pick to throw in on top of it? I doubt it. I think Morey is setting us up to be able to trade for that superstar that will bring us back to the big stage. Whether that be Amare, or a future draft pick years from now, the Rockets are in pretty good shape with their current roster personnel.
