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Comparing the Rockets roster with other West contenders

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by samtaylor, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. samtaylor

    samtaylor Member

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    I consider the contenders in the West to be the Rockets, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, and Grizzlies.

    I wanted to compare and rank these six teams based on each position group currently on their rosters.

    POINT GURADS

    1. Warriors - Steph Curry and Shaun Livingston
    2. Thunder - Russell Westbrook, D.J. Augustin, and Cameron Payne
    3. Rockets - Ty Lawson and Patrick Beverley
    4. Clippers - Chris Paul and Austin Rivers
    5. Spurs - Tony Parker and Patty Mills
    6. Grizzlies - Mike Conley and Beno Udrih

    SHOOTING GURADS

    1. Rockets - James Harden, Marcus Thornton, and K.J. McDaniels (maybe JET)
    2. Warriors - Klay Thompspn and Leandro Barbosa
    3. Clippers - J.J. Redick, Jamal Crawford, and Lance Stephenson
    4. Spurs - Danny Green and Manu Ginobili
    5. Grizzlies - Courtney Lee and Tony Allen
    6. Thunder - Dion Waiters and Anthony Morrow

    SMALL FORWARDS

    1. Thunder - Kevin Durant, Andre Roberson, and Kyle Singler
    2. Spurs - Kawhi Leonard, Kyle Anderson, and Matt Bonner
    3. Rockets - Trevor Ariza, Corey Brewer, and Sam Dekker
    4. Warriors - Harrison Barnes and Andre Iguodala
    5. Clippers - Paul Pierce and Wesley Johnson
    6. Grizzlies - Jeff Green and Vince Carter

    POWER FORWARDS

    1. Clippers - Blake Griffin and Josh Smith
    2. Spurs - LaMarcus Aldridge and David West
    3. Warriors - Draymond Green, Marreese Speight, and Kevon Looney
    4. Grizzlies - Zach Randolph and Brandan Wright
    5. Rockets - Terrance Jones and Donatas Motiejunas
    6. Thunder - Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, and Mitch McGary

    CENTERS

    1. Rockets - Dwight Howard and Clint Capela
    2. Clippers - DeAndre Jordan and Cole Aldrich
    3. Grizzlies - Marc Gasol and Jarell Martin
    4. Spurs - Tim Duncan and Boris Diaw
    5. Warriors - Andrew Bogut and Festus Ezeli
    6. Thunder - Enes Kanter and Steven Adams


    Now if you make a point system where 1st = 6 points, 2nd = 5 points, etc. the results are as follows:

    1. Rockets - 22 points
    T2. Warriors - 20 points
    T2. Clippers - 20 points
    4. Spurs - 18 points
    5. Thunder - 14 points
    6. Grizzlies - 11 points

    So I feel as though the Rockets have the best overall roster ON PAPER, what do you think? (and yes I'm a homer)
     
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  2. J Sizzle

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    Switch us with the Clippers at PG because of Chris Paul, IMO, but other than that pretty accurate.
     
  3. Cstyle42

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    Power Forward is where we need to improve... I have confidence in DMO though he showed us a lot. Jones too... he just has to play his game and play strong.
     
  4. MrButtocks

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    Warriors should be #3 on the SF list. Barnes is a quality shooter and rebounder and Iggy just won Finals MVP. Duncan and Marc Gasol are also better than Deandre Jordan; better defensively and can hit their free throws.
     
  5. samtaylor

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    I just figured if we could beat Chris Paul with a couple of 37 year olds, then Lawson and a healthy Beverly could take him.
     
  6. finsraider

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    I'd move our PGs down to #4 and rearrange the PFs to this:

    1. Spurs - LaMarcus Aldridge and David West
    2. Clippers - Blake Griffin and Josh Smith
    3. Warriors - Draymond Green, Marreese Speight, and Kevon Looney
    4. Thunder - Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, and Mitch McGary
    5. Grizzlies - Zach Randolph and Brandan Wright
    6. Rockets - Terrance Jones and Donatas Motiejunas
     
  7. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

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    That PG list is hard to rank, unbelievable how much PG talent there is in the West

    Think your rankings look pretty good

    How would you rank the coaches of those teams??

    Obviously Pop is #1, I'd probably put Kerr #2

    I think Kevin is as good as the others but clearly behind those two
     
  8. HamesJarden

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    Beat a crippled Chris Paul?
     
  9. Jmcballer88

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    These rankings suck
     
  10. kevC

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    The Rockets beat the Clippers. Chris Paul destroyed us.
     
  11. DraftBoy10

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    Still would like to see someone else than Tjones at PF. D-Mo should start, but there's some games where TJones looks like a stud and others where he looks like a goof, but in all games....he's absolutely terrible on D.
     
  12. ksny15

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    The Clippers should be 2 or 3 just because of CP3. And OKC > Houston at PF
     
  13. dragician

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    One thing for sure, our roster is upgraded. Losing Smith was good, we were doing better with Dmo.
     
  14. Space City

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    A+ post.

    Every time I start to argue a ranking in my head, I end up agreeing with OP. So i'd say the lists are pretty accurate, maybe a minor change here or there.
     
  15. tdo

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    It's really tough to do these rankings, because it all depends on how much you put into depth vs starters.

    For instance Kawhi Leonard and KD are by far the best SFs, but then you look at their back ups, and both are fairly lackluster. Roberson is not a very good player, at least going by my eye test (granted I have probably only watched him play 5-10 times) and by looking at the stats he is very much unproven. Same thing with Anderson. He played very limited last season, and was mostly unimpressive from the time he did get. Did he make that big of a leap from year 1 to 2? I know he just won the summer league MVP, but we all know how that works.

    Now you compare that with the Rockets and lets say the Warriors. There is not much of a drop off at all going from the starters to reserves. Harrison Barnes and Trevor Ariza are both mid-tier type SFs, but they both have proven veteran back-ups, who should both be in the running for 6 man of the year next season. So does the depth make up the difference in talent between KD/Kawhi vs Ariza/Barnes? Probably not assuming everyone stays healthy. But if we are accounting for injuries, I might take the Warriors or Rockets SFs vs OKC simply because of Durant's spotty health last year.

    All in all, it is just extremely difficult to rank the rosters. Most are fairly close, and it's just going to come down to what you value more... depth or starter talent.
     
  16. Bo6

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    these rankings

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    daywalker02 Easter Egg Hunter - Tell me why? نحن عائلة

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    I will take them over the Spurs and there with Thunder. Kev Durant does not do it for the entire position.
     
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    daywalker02 Easter Egg Hunter - Tell me why? نحن عائلة

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    Jones is certainly better than what he showed recently. This nerve damage was affecting him.

    But he is the best trade chip the Rox got right now.
     
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    Tried to rank with a 75/25 ratio of starter to backup, and thought about who you would trade (ignoreing age and salery) for each other.

    POINT GURADS

    1. Clippers - Chris Paul and Austin Rivers
    2. Warriors - Steph Curry and Shaun Livingston
    3. Thunder - Russell Westbrook and D.J. Augustin
    4. Grizzlies - Mike Conley and Beno Udrih
    5. Rockets - Ty Lawson and Patrick Beverley
    6. Spurs - Tony Parker and Patty Mills (I think Parker is declining)

    SHOOTING GURADS

    1. Rockets - James Harden and Marcus Thornton
    2. Warriors - Klay Thompspn and Leandro Barbosa
    3. Clippers - J.J. Redickand Jamal Crawford
    4. Grizzlies - Courtney Lee and Tony Allen
    5. Spurs - Danny Green and Manu Ginobili
    6. Thunder - Dion Waiters and Anthony Morrow

    SMALL FORWARDS

    1. Thunder - Kevin Durant and Andre Roberson
    2. Spurs - Kawhi Leonard and Matt Bonner
    3. Clippers - Paul Pierce and Wesley Johnson
    4. Rockets - Trevor Ariza and Corey Brewer
    5. Warriors - Harrison Barnes and Andre Iguodala
    6. Grizzlies - Jeff Green and Vince Carter

    POWER FORWARDS

    1. Clippers - Blake Griffin and Josh Smith
    2. Spurs - LaMarcus Aldridge and David West
    3. Grizzlies - Zach Randolph and Brandan Wright
    4. Warriors - Draymond Green and Marreese Speight
    5. Thunder - Serge Ibaka and Nick Collison and and Mitch McGary
    6. Rockets - Donatas Motiejunas and Terrance Jones

    CENTERS

    1. Rockets - Dwight Howard and Clint Capela
    2. Grizzlies - Marc Gasol and Jarell Martin
    3. Clippers - DeAndre Jordan and Cole Aldrich
    4. Spurs - Tim Duncan and Boris Diaw
    5. Warriors - Andrew Bogut and Festus Ezeli
    6. Thunder - Enes Kanter and Steven Adams
     
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