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Comey Senate Intelligence Panel testimony discussion thread

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Justtxyank

    I don't defend Trump on trickle down economics Saudi Arabia and a whole host of issues so stop riding my dick about it
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  2. Astrosfan183

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    How did that let Trump off the hook? Comey said that Trump himself was not being investigated for Russian ties, but that his campaign WAS (and probably still is) being investigated for the Russian ties. Further, whether there's a legal case or not, how can you not find it a bit disturbing that a president fired an FBI director over an investigation into the president? You can argue whether there's a legal problem there, but you got to agree there's certainly some sort of ethical problem right? And further clearing the room and asking Comey to lay off of Flynn? Comey also basically said Mueller will be looking into the obstruction of justice claims, so there is an investigation there. That just wasn't an FBI investigation. Having listened to the hearing, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how the conservative media has reported on this that it vindicated Trump. And further how someone could see zero ethical issue with a president firing someone investigating him, and further clearing a room in an attempt to influence an FBI director in an investigation. The FBI should be independent of that.

    What he said about Lynch wasn't good. There maybe should be an investigation there. But acting like that was the only disturbing thing to come out of this...did you even watch the hearing?
     
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  3. dobro1229

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    So now AG Lynch needs to go to jail for wanting to call an investigation "a matter"?

    What I thought was funny was when Comey said he referred to it as a matter and then the "fake news" media NY Times ran the story referring to it as an "investigation" anyways.

    In the court of public opinion anyone surrounding the Hillary email scandal is already guilty to half the US population just because. Other than deflection, what would be the point in the president directing the FBI or whoever to investigate Lynch now almost a year later?
     
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  4. fchowd0311

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    Stating that Trump isn't under investigation while so many of his underling associates are is the same as saying a mob boss is CURRENTLY not under investigation while a large amount of his possy is.
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    "Just because" publicly available evidence proves that she was guilty...evidence that isn't even disputed. You know, "just because".
     
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  6. Nook

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    You can't be serious.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    For those wanting to go after Comey for leaking to the press... this UT School of Law professor says, don't bother...


    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ests_james_comey_broke_the_law_he_didn_t.html
     
  8. TheresTheDagger

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    Take it up with James Comey and his (former) team.
     
  9. Astrosfan183

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    If we are being honest, I only conceded that point in hopes to avoid the typical argument I always have in these Trump debates where I point out something bad he is doing, and they try to deflect to something some Democrat did.

    Like, I'm pretty sure every single argument I've ever had with any Trump supporter has devolved to that at some point.
     
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    The funny thing is Comey created the memos because he believed Trump would lie and discredit him.
     
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  12. Ottomaton

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    The thing that really depresses me is that a third to half of the country seems to be suffering from a mass delusion. Or maybe they really know what's real and just prefer to live in a fantasy land? Either way, it is sad to me that a subset of the population of America can look at exactly the same thing I watched and either see something completely at odds with reality, or pretend to see something completely at odds with reality.

    I mean, that speaks really poorly to the mental health of the American body politic. Our collective psyche is suffering from hallucinations and delusions worthy of a full blown schizophrenic in the midst of a psychotic break. The country's political discourse is beyond dysfunctional, and this is a psychosis with a recent onset. But it must have happened while I was looking the other way. I'm really worried about how this inability to agree on basic reality will devolve into a greater split going into the future.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    I think I have something though both sides "I think" will agree on.

    Can we ALL agree that we need new laws in order to make the Attorney General a non partisan member of our government please?

    Maybe put a 10 year term like the FBI director. I dunno but something has to happen because I've seen one too many AG's that do nothing in a bipartisan country-first fashion. It's an embarrassment that war on drugs clan member Jeff Sessions is allowed to be the nations top cop, and I'm sure Republicans feel that Lynch was the devil.

    That is maybe the most important role in the White House due to the fact that they are really the one person that can tell the president this is illegal and that is illegal along with the FBI director. The House speaker role of oversite has become a joke as well.

    The attorney general term or something has to change to get that position in line to serve its purpose.
     
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    On the topic of proving obstruction of justice requires Trump to have acted "corruptly:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-comey-obstruction-justice-623182
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    On the question of whether Trump is under investigation:
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-comey-obstruction-justice-623182
     
  16. cml750

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    Well lets see, with every single person who is supposed to testify there is this big build-up in the media that this is the one and then nothing. Same thing today although we basically knew this yesterday due to releasing his statement. Comey did confirm a few things. We were finally told that the Russians had no ill effect on the election today. We found out Trump was telling the truth when he said that Comey said he was never under investigation. This is something some of us have been saying the whole time.

    I am not the biggest Trump fan, never have been. I think he is a terrible person but this whole thing has been built up by the liberal media to rile up the bases and it is obviously working. Let me ask you, why would Comey not come out and publicly announce that Trump was not under investigation? Why would he leak stuff to the media and not that little tidbit? Think about Comey's history when you answer.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Think about his history?

    I think it's quite obvious by now he really has no partisan stake into this. He probably is the most objective source we have. He helped **** over Hillary with a October suprise. Why would you think he would have any partisanship toward the Democrats/liberals? The dude was a registered Republican all his life untill he joined the FBI.
     
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  18. bigtexxx

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    Exactly. The liberal media knows they'll get an audience if they stir up doubt and rumors that make Trump look bad. All about those advertising $$.
     
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  19. cml750

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    Advertising dollars play a big part but the agenda goes way beyond that.
     
  20. cml750

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    So why would he not say Trump was not under investigation? He had no problem giving Hillary a pass after listing all the things she did wrong and then came out before the election and said they reopened the case. The man does not have an issue with making public statements, his history speaks volumes to that fact. Why would he not make it public that Trump himself was not under investigation? That would have taken a lot of wind out of the medias sails had he mad e that announcement but he wouldn't do it. He was basically complacent with all the innuendo, lies, and half truths spewed by the media everyday. It would not have lessened the investigation one bit to announce Trump was himself not under investigation. Heck, he even contributed to it by asking his friend to release his memos to the press. Think about that for a moment.
     

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